Mosin Nagant 91/30 group buy?

bs875 · Jan 23, 2013

OK, I guess I'll find it myself. Very cool stock and the retail price is $200. Already inletted for a Timney trigger and ten round mags will be available.

http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=38043

JNieman · Jan 23, 2013

If you get two crates, can I dibs the second?

I'm tentatively in depending on price point.

Col_Sanders · Jan 23, 2013

I'm interested in one...possibly 2 depending on price

cnodie1 · Jan 23, 2013

People are making this much harder than it should be. First off, the thread says 91/30 group buy, not 53 or M44. If you want one of those look elsewhere. Second it should be run like the Poly lower group buy we did last year. The poly buy worked because we were able to make checks individually out to JoeBob and they were all sent in by one person. So we need three things a person to send in the checks in one big envelope (sugarbug), an FFL (bigjakewelch) and a dealer willing to accept individual checks (??). Once we get a price we can make a new thread and start a list. Keep it open for a few days to gain people then announce a cut off date for it. The hard part is keeping it to intervals of 20 but that will work itself out.

I did this on my phone so sorry about any mistakes and sorry to be bossy but I hate to see a group buy fall apart.

Armnhammer · Jan 23, 2013

cnodie1 said:
People are making this much harder than it should be. First off, the thread says 91/30 group buy, not 53 or M44. If you want one of those look elsewhere. Second it should be run like the Poly lower group buy we did last year. The poly buy worked because we were able to make checks individually out to JoeBob and they were all sent in by one person. So we need three things a person to send in the checks in one big envelope (sugarbug), an FFL (bigjakewelch) and a dealer willing to accept individual checks (??). Once we get a price we can make a new thread and start a list. Keep it open for a few days to gain people then announce a cut off date for it. The hard part is keeping it to intervals of 20 but that will work itself out.

I did this on my phone so sorry about any mistakes and sorry to be bossy but I hate to see a group buy fall apart.

Most of us will take what we can get. Whether it be 91/30 or m44. And we could do money orders if need be. Maybe we can work out a group buy on the archangel stocks as well

Sugarbug · Jan 23, 2013

I'm cool with accepting payments, but I think it would be best if I secured the crate on my CC first. Thoughts?

Cleburne · Jan 23, 2013

Sugarbug said:
I'm cool with accepting payments, but I think it would be best if I secured the crate on my CC first. Thoughts?

That makes sense. Then we would send our payments to you, covering your layout. No need to find a FFL to accept numerous individual checks or money orders.

Just let us know unit pricing when you can. I'll gladly send payment ahead of time.

Sugarbug · Jan 23, 2013

Cleburne said:
That makes sense. Then we would send our payments to you, covering your layout. No need to find a FFL to accept numerous individual checks or money orders.

Just let us know unit pricing when you can. I'll gladly send payment ahead of time.

I worry about the legality here, though. If I accept an entire crate, but with the initial premise that I'm only keeping one or two rifles and the others are going to other people (at cost... no profit)... am I within legal boundaries?

To further complicate things, BO says that all private transfers have to go through an FFL for a background check. So do we need 20 back ground checks? 1 for each rifle?

bs875 · Jan 23, 2013

Sugarbug said:
I worry about the legality here, though. If I accept an entire crate, but with the initial premise that I'm only keeping one or two rifles and the others are going to other people (at cost... no profit)... am I within legal boundaries?

To further complicate things, BO says that all private transfers have to go through an FFL for a background check. So do we need 20 back ground checks? 1 for each rifle?

You pay for the rifles. They get shipped to the FFL. There is one background check for each customer when they pick them up from the FFL.

Sugarbug · Jan 23, 2013

bs875 said:
You pay for the rifles. They get shipped to the FFL. There is one background check for each customer when they pick them up from the FFL.

Thank you for clarifying.

Cleburne · Jan 23, 2013

Sugarbug said:
I worry about the legality here, though. If I accept an entire crate, but with the initial premise that I'm only keeping one or two rifles and the others are going to other people (at cost... no profit)... am I within legal boundaries?

To further complicate things, BO says that all private transfers have to go through an FFL for a background check. So do we need 20 back ground checks? 1 for each rifle?

Good questions. Let's let an expert chime in.

bs875 answered the question while I was typing my response.

mike84z28 · Jan 23, 2013

Im still in for 2, just let me know who to pay and when. Thanks this is great

Sugarbug · Jan 23, 2013

This is an EXAMPLE of what a crate would cost:

http://www.classicfirearms.com/mosin-nagant-rfile-by-the-crate

Now, talking to them, it will depend on what distributor sends them the crate as prices vary sharply, but that one is $120 per rifle (plus shipping I think).

Still waiting to hear from a few other dealers.

cnodie1 · Jan 23, 2013

If we are all going to pay sugar I say we keep it to mailed checks. PayPal is too risky as they could freeze his account plus all the monies that were sent to him

Sugarbug · Jan 23, 2013

cnodie1 said:
...

I think the straw purchase isn't a concern so long as each person who buys a rifle goes through their own background check.

But I'm definitely eager to stay within the law here. I don't like any of you enough to lose my gun rights for

Col_Sanders · Jan 23, 2013

I BELIEVE (From an experience with AIM Surplus) that you need to provide names and phone #s for all the people buying the rifles when you make the payment.

cnodie1 · Jan 23, 2013

Sugarbug said:
I think the straw purchase isn't a concern so long as each person who buys a rifle goes through their own background check.

But I'm definitely eager to stay within the law here. I don't like any of you enough to lose my gun rights for

Yeah I thought about it and realized it wasn't a straw doing it the way a few people mentioned.

You try royal tiger imports?

bs875 · Jan 23, 2013

Col_Sanders said:
I BELIEVE (From an experience with AIM Surplus) that you need to provide names and phone #s for all the people buying the rifles when you make the payment.

The seller doesn't need to know who will end up with the rifles. They get money, they ship to FFL. Who buys is between the group, the FFL and their 4473.

Sugarbug · Jan 23, 2013

cnodie1 said:
Yeah I thought about it and realized it wasn't a straw doing it the way a few people mentioned.

You try royal tiger imports?

Waiting to hear from them.

11Bravo · Jan 23, 2013

I'm in for one for sure. Subscribing.

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