Are you suggesting that people are rude, discourteous, and inconsiderate? Say it ain't so!
Harahan gun range burglarized, police say
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Are you suggesting that people are rude, discourteous, and inconsiderate? Say it ain't so!
This is incorrect, as I have had great experiences with non-shooters club instructors who have helped with the "ENTIRE" package.....
(But I'm not an uber regular customer, I didn't freak out when Justin Bieber was in there, I like to do my thing and move on to the next activity in life.)
I hope the criminals are caught.
And they let those people shoot without any kind of supervision?
"The Right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed!"
Watch out, be safe, protect yourself. If it's unsafe as you infer; tell the owner or leave. You are implying that gun ownership should have parental type pre-requisites?!?
No one said anything about gun ownership.
A range is a private business. Your 2A rights have nothing to do with the ability or availability of using a shooting range.
You are like the people who think no guns signs on a business are a violation of 2A. LOL
You have a right to jump out of a plane if you so choose, but most Sky diving business's will make sure you either have a certain level of training/experience or will put you through instruction on the most essential items and typically place an instructor with you.
Based on what others have posted, I am just asking should there be some kind of "due diligence" issue with things like shooting ranges?
How do you prove how much "experience" or lack-there-of someone coming in has other than simply asking them unless you observe each and every shooter individually? I have witnessed customers coming in who get out in a lane and don't even know how to load their own weapon... yet they state that they have indeed had experience with the weapon and fired it before.
There's no stamp on someone's hand that lets these guys know if that person is an experienced shooter or someone who just purchased a weapon an hour before (you can spot the bullet holes in the lane dividers)... or who just rented one from them a second before. Though, when they rent them, and they ask "Have you fired a weapon before?" or "Are you familiar with this weapon?", if the person answers truthfully... they do take the time to show the shooter how to load it, clear it, etc.
Supervision of the range is constantly ongoing though there is no staff member assigned to sit and watch the lane cameras constantly... another cost that would effect membership and range fees. Everything costs money... fix one issue and everyone will find something else to complain about.
There's no stamp on someone's hand that lets these guys know if that person is an experienced shooter or someone who just purchased a weapon an hour before (you can spot the bullet holes in the lane dividers)... or who just rented one from them a second before. Though, when they rent them, and they ask "Have you fired a weapon before?" or "Are you familiar with this weapon?", if the person answers truthfully... they do take the time to show the shooter how to load it, clear it, etc.
Supervision of the range is constantly ongoing though there is no staff member assigned to sit and watch the lane cameras constantly... another cost that would effect membership and range fees. Everything costs money... fix one issue and everyone will find something else to complain about.
You should recheck your thoughts based on the context of the previous posts. Because you are right! I didn't imply anything about ownership either. I wrote; "If it's unsafe as you infer; tell the owner or leave." a la private business concern!
If you agreed there were folks there that were unsafely handling weapons you should do what I suggested; instead you inferred agreement to the post that pointed out the folks that go buy guns and have no idea how to use them, and to that I say, so what? It is their Right to have that firearm and not know how to use it. Is it unfortunate? Of course it is. But I don't support any further requirements to access legal firearms by law abiding citizens.
Now this;
is just silly!
As for you final statement; refer to my "a la private business" remark. Who knows, the range owner could be ecstatic that unsafe people are muzzle sweeping everyone?!? You should ask.
You should recheck your thoughts based on the context of the previous posts. Because you are right! I didn't imply anything about ownership either. I wrote; "If it's unsafe as you infer; tell the owner or leave." a la private business concern!
If you agreed there were folks there that were unsafely handling weapons you should do what I suggested; instead you inferred agreement to the post that pointed out the folks that go buy guns and have no idea how to use them, and to that I say, so what? It is their Right to have that firearm and not know how to use it. Is it unfortunate? Of course it is. But I don't support any further requirements to access legal firearms by law abiding citizens.
Now this; is just silly!
As for you final statement; refer to my "a la private business" remark. Who knows, the range owner could be ecstatic that unsafe people are muzzle sweeping everyone?!? You should ask.
How is that last statement silly? Could you please elaborate? Are you of the belief that a "no guns sign" on a private business is a violation of the 2A?
I apologize, but there was not anything vaguely coherent in the rest of your post that I could actually respond to. All I can assume is that you fail to recognize that your posting of the 2A was an inference to gun ownership, or perhaps you do not realize what the 2A actually applies to. i am not yet sure.
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I understand, and acknowledge there is no 100% way to know if someone will be safe or not once on the range. I am not saying there is even a solution to the problem. However, I am sure in at least some of the cases, some basic conversation would establish the realization that someone DOES NOT know a whole lot about what they are about to do.
That is good that they do take the time to orient new shooters. I agree that everything costs money.
Why do you think there aren't enough shooting ranges? Ask you buddy about the liability insurance alone.
Perhaps people lie about their level of experience at that range for much the same reasons members lie on here. Fear of reprisal, shame? Who knows. Nonetheless, you need to discuss this with your friend. Cause if someone gets killed or injured there out of negligence, he and you; won't have a place to shoot.
Once they enter your friends business, they belong to him. When they walk out in to the public; they're there. It's on them!
It's silly because you don't realize where my heart and head lies in relation to private business and 2nd A freedoms. You may never meet a more ardent supporter of both than me! It's all good!
That is a valid point. I only have your posts and conversation with me to go off of, and what you typed, to me, illustrated a lack of understanding, not necessarily support.
I will only offer (not saying you necessarily), but people often are ardent supporters of things they do not completely understand. KONY2012!
No... not ALL people.
You must still be young.
Relax, Emp; I'm sure he's referring to me.
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/08/atf_offers_reward_in_harahan_g.html#incart_river
Looks like the thieves made off with 6 guns.
Looks like the thieves made off with 6 guns.
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