New 9MM Gold Dot G2.

JBP55 · Oct 21, 2014

The new 147gr. Gold Dot G2 ammunition with a polymer tip which many expect to be the new FBI issue round for their new 9mm pistols will be available after it is announced at SHOT.

JR1572 · Oct 21, 2014

I meant to post in the same topic in the LE section, not this one.

JR1572

The_Shadow · Oct 21, 2014

But you already got my attention right here

THE GOLD DOT 2 UPGRADE FEATURES A BULLET DESIGN THAT EXCELS IN THE FBI PROTOCOL FOR LE AMMUNITION. ITS SHALLOW, DISH SHAPED NOSE CONTOUR IS FILLED WITH ELASTOMER TO PROVIDE RAPID EXPANSION WHERE NEEDED AND MINIMIZE OVER PENETRATION WHERE ITS NOT. GOLD DOT G2'S UNI-COR CONSTRUCTION MOLECULARLY BONDS THE COPPER JACKET TO THE ALLOYED LEAD CORE, VIRTUALLY ELIMINATING SEPARATIONS.

JBP55 · Oct 21, 2014

JR1572 said:
James, what are people saying about this round? The Dentist is being secret squirrel about it on the other forum you and I are on.

JR1572

From what I can gather it should have greater penetration that the current Gold Dot. Also less chance of plugging up which should help with expansion when fired into heavy clothing.
Speer has a NDA with some of the people testing this ammunition. It is supposed to be "under wraps" until announced at SHOT.
When I receive an availability update I will let you know.

Jasarii · Oct 21, 2014

Good deal...Keep the updates coming as you hear them. Def interested in seeing the performance on these.

JBP55 · Oct 21, 2014

Jasarii said:
Good deal...Keep the updates coming as you hear them. Def interested in seeing the performance on these.

Will do, Will.

M_Lou32 · Oct 24, 2014

A buddy of mine came across these at a gun show earlier this month actually. So it would seem they're out on the market already. He picked up a couple boxes of 9mm 147gr standard pressure loads. I'm going to try to convince him to sell me a box.

JadeRaven · Oct 24, 2014

Better than HST?

JBP55 · Oct 25, 2014

Word is the FBI already has the G2 and it will be their new issue round when they adopt new 9mm pistols. I will continue to inquire about this.

JBP55 · Oct 25, 2014

JadeRaven said:
Better than HST?

Below is a quote from a SME who is involved in testing the 9mm G2 ammunition.

Thank you, but we have had this ammo for a while. Unfortunately we were asked not to discuss the results. If possible, we'll try and put up some information in the near future. The Speer 9 mm 147 gr G2 is very good performing barrier blind ammunition! In fact modern 9 mm ammo like the G2 performs so well, that many large LE agencies are having no issues giving up larger caliber handguns in favor of easier shooting, more durable, higher capacity 9 mm handguns that offer terminal performance that only a few years ago was only possible with larger calibers like .40 S&W and .45 Auto.

jmcrawf1 · Oct 25, 2014

JadeRaven said:
Better than HST?

This stuff is supposed to be like HST but mo' betta' lol

NaughtyMooose · Oct 25, 2014

Are you referring to penetration, expansion or both? Sounds too good to be true

JBP55 · Oct 26, 2014

NaughtyMooose said:
Are you referring to penetration, expansion or both? Sounds too good to be true

See post four.

JadeRaven · Oct 27, 2014

JBP55 said:
Below is a quote from a SME who is involved in testing the 9mm G2 ammunition.

Thank you, but we have had this ammo for a while. Unfortunately we were asked not to discuss the results. If possible, we'll try and put up some information in the near future. The Speer 9 mm 147 gr G2 is very good performing barrier blind ammunition! In fact modern 9 mm ammo like the G2 performs so well, that many large LE agencies are having no issues giving up larger caliber handguns in favor of easier shooting, more durable, higher capacity 9 mm handguns that offer terminal performance that only a few years ago was only possible with larger calibers like .40 S&W and .45 Auto.

So we'll have to wait and see

Very interesting.

jmcrawf1 said:
This stuff is supposed to be like HST but mo' betta' lol

Yeah it looks like the HST design, but they added a plug a-la critical defense. Federal & Speer are both owned by ATK so it seems like any new ammo "premium LE" ammo by either should be at least as-good-as HST which was previously established as the best round available from what I gather.

Gold dot has been getting long in the tooth for some time now. Well really ever since the advent of HST and reintroduction of Ranger T.

JBP55 · Oct 27, 2014

The current Gold Dot 124gr. +P has an excellent track record so the new G2 must be even better. The FBI is big on penetration so I expect more penetration from the new G2 line.

JR1572 · Oct 28, 2014

http://www.kiesler.com/police/productdetail.aspx?cat=1136&pid=23571

JR1572

JBP55 · Oct 28, 2014

JR1572 said:
http://www.kiesler.com/police/productdetail.aspx?cat=1136&pid=23571

JR1572

I think Keisler is charging about $10 per box too much for this ammunition. I will know when others have it available.

JadeRaven · Oct 28, 2014

Yeah wow it's about $15 more than HST.

Hopefully we'll see this stuff in greater numbers at a real price soon.

03protege · Oct 29, 2014

Is there any reason for Speer to keep the original gold dots around? I can't imagine that these are much more expensive to produce.

JadeRaven · Oct 29, 2014

People buy what they know.

New 9MM Gold Dot G2.

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