Recommendation on Pepper Spray

Vermiform · May 9, 2016

MOTOR51 said:
Exactly. Might feel a shock but he won't get the overload to his system that causes him to "lock up". I don't want to get hit with a 2" or 2ft spread regardless lol

Or wrestle a sweaty 300 pound psychotic, naked guy freshly covered with pepper spray on a tile floor for that matter. I only had one of his feet and if it weren't for the two officers using some secret, magic joint lock, we would have never got the leathers on him.

fun fact. Make sure you have ALL of the pepper spray washed off before you go to the bathroom!

MOTOR51 · May 9, 2016

Haha

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dantheman · May 10, 2016

My son got sprayed with Freeze+P in the Academy . He told me he would rather be Tazed . You get over the effects quicker . I saw him about 3 hrs after he had been sprayed and he was still burning .

Drummy · May 10, 2016

I'm in a similar situation as the OP. Although my wife has her CHP, due to work restrictions she cannot carry. Are there any legalities or restrictions on pepper or tazer carry?

whitsend · May 10, 2016

Vermiform said:
fun fact. Make sure you have ALL of the pepper spray washed off before you go to the bathroom!

I had the opportunity to assist with a patient that the local PD dropped off at a hospital after they had pepper sprayed him. He was on synthetic marijuana, very paranoid and combative. I assisted just enough to get a little pepper spray on my hands. I found this fun fact to be very true.

alpinehyperlite · May 10, 2016

Vermiform said:
That's what I bet it was, the spread. He hit him at about 5-6' away maybe even closer? Perhaps didn't get enough distance to spread out?

Ideal spread is 18+ inches between the barbs. That is 8-10 with the X2 and 6-8 ft with the x26. That is actual distance from ECD to violator not body to body because an arm is easily 3ft extended. Any spread under 18 inches will just be pain compliance. Anything over is muscle disruption.

luv1979 · May 10, 2016

alpinehyperlite said:
Taser.

What is entailed in getting her a taser as far as the legalities of her carrying it etc? I haven't even thought of it as a option but would like to know more.

alpinehyperlite · May 10, 2016

luv1979 said:
What is entailed in getting her a taser as far as the legalities of her carrying it etc? I haven't even thought of it as a option but would like to know more.

Same as pepper spray. It is not a firearm. The probes are fired via an electrical charge deploying the probes utilizing a compressed gas (nitrogen I believe). As far as I have seen there is no legislation specifically addressing or classifying an ECD, such as a taser branded device.

AustinBR · May 10, 2016

And Academy or most gun stores sell them.

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Vermiform · May 10, 2016

whitsend said:
I had the opportunity to assist with a patient that the local PD dropped off at a hospital after they had pepper sprayed him. He was on synthetic marijuana, very paranoid and combative. I assisted just enough to get a little pepper spray on my hands. I found this fun fact to be very true.

Also, at that point it seemed like the more I washed my junk the more it burned!

alpinehyperlite said:
Ideal spread is 18+ inches between the barbs. That is 8-10 with the X2 and 6-8 ft with the x26. That is actual distance from ECD to violator not body to body because an arm is easily 3ft extended. Any spread under 18 inches will just be pain compliance. Anything over is muscle disruption.

Makes perfect sense now. I always wondered how he just shrugged that off.

103M 95G · May 11, 2016

One of the Larger LE agencies in the area issues Saber Red, it was nicked named Satans Urine by some that were exposed to it. I much rather be Tased.

charlie12 · May 11, 2016

New Orleans doesn't seem to like stun guns.

Sec. 54-339. - Sale, purchase, possession, use of specified instrumentalities prohibited.
It shall be unlawful for anyone knowingly to:

(1)
Sell, manufacture, purchase, possess or carry any blackjack, sandclub, metal knuckles, switchblade knife or spring knife, iron buckle, zip gun or stungun;
(2)
Set a spring gun; or
(3)
Use any device or attachment of any kind designed, used or intended for use in silencing the noise of any firearm, rifle or shotgun.
(Code 1956, § 42-55)

US Infidel · May 11, 2016

charlie12 said:
New Orleans doesn't seem to like stun guns.

Sec. 54-339. - Sale, purchase, possession, use of specified instrumentalities prohibited.
It shall be unlawful for anyone knowingly to:

(1)
Sell, manufacture, purchase, possess or carry any blackjack, sandclub, metal knuckles, switchblade knife or spring knife, iron buckle, zip gun or stungun;
(2)
Set a spring gun; or
(3)
Use any device or attachment of any kind designed, used or intended for use in silencing the noise of any firearm, rifle or shotgun.
(Code 1956, § 42-55)

A Taser is not a stun gun. A stun gun is only pain compliance.
And it says "metal knuckles" how about these plastic ones?

AustinBR · Nov 21, 2016

Girlfriend had her pepper spray taken at a sporting event (it was on her keychain). She needs more and the one that I keep in my car (Freeze +P) is about to expire. Any updated recommendations? I looked at the Vexor stuff, but it looks like they differentiate what they sell non-LEO and LEO. I'd like the best that non-LEO can purchase and would love some advice.

jazzdunn · Nov 21, 2016

Mace Pepper Gel Magnum 3 available at Academy.

ta2d_cop · Nov 21, 2016

Freeze +P, Zarc Cap Stun or Sabre Red is all stuff used by local LEOs and are all pretty effective.

AustinBR · Nov 21, 2016

ta2d_cop said:
Freeze +P, Zarc Cap Stun or Sabre Red is all stuff used by local LEOs and are all pretty effective.

How does the Freeze +P compare to Sabre Red?

Gator 45/70 · Nov 21, 2016

Pffft, Amateurs,

Get some Zatarans or Louisiana shrimp/crab boil on your hands/lips and get frisky with the wife.

Talk about a woman who comes unglued!!!

ta2d_cop · Nov 22, 2016

AustinBR said:
How does the Freeze +P compare to Sabre Red?

They both suck equally as bad, having been exposed to and sprayed by both. The decontamination process with Sabre red is simpler and easy, but you're not spraying yourself so that really isn't an issue. Sabre really does feel like fire straight out of Satan's ass! :flamed:

alpinehyperlite · Nov 22, 2016

I've been hit with vexor, cap-stun and freeze+p. Vexor was by far the worst.

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