Obama has released more prisoners than the last 10 presidents combined
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I also have no issues with this just as long as the offender was nonviolent and remained so while in custody.
The drug offense laws in place in America are ridiculous.
We routinely sentence nonviolent offenders to life while murderers and rapists get a few years.
Not okay in my way of thinking.
The drug offense laws in place in America are ridiculous.
We routinely sentence nonviolent offenders to life while murderers and rapists get a few years.
Not okay in my way of thinking.
I'm wondering what percentage of these felons are white and what percentage are black. Oh nevermind that would be racist to bring that subject up.
These guys weren't sentenced to life for a first time marijuana charge. These guys have been in and out of the system 5,6,7 times before getting busted with large amounts of narcotics which got them a life sentence. Murderers and rapists shouldn't get off easy, but what will happen if we lessen drug charges? The same that was happening before these guys got sentenced to life, they will spend their time in and out of prison after getting arrested dozens of time for drug distribution. It will be a never ending cycle; deal drugs, go to prison for a little while, get out, deal drugs.... Yes that is how it is now with many dealers, but these guys were busted with large amounts of drugs multiple times. Do we want them back on the streets every few months and allow them to continue their life of crime? There has to be a point where we say, "you have been given too many chances and you can no longer be trusted in our society". Or should we allow them to indefinitely go through the cycle with no end point?
Legalize, period. The government doesn't need to hold grown adult hands.
Do you think it's ok for dealers to sell drugs to kids?
No way kids could get their hands on legalized drugs, that would be illegal...
So it's ok?
Nope, same way they shouldn't get their hands on Tylenol.
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I feel like there would be fewer 'dealers' if they legalized some drugs. The people that need to be protecting children are parents, not DEA agents.
Very true, kids can just get any crack head of age to go buy them weed, booze, LSD, crystal meth etc from the local drug shop. No more need for "dealers". Parents protecting their children from drugs? Sure the responsible ones will, but let's be honest, the responsible parent club is getting smaller every generation.
I'm not for prohibition of alcohol. We are talking about crystal meth, cocaine, crack cocaine, heroin, PCP. If you think the result of legalizing the drugs I just listed will be the same as legalizing alcohol, then we will have to agree to disagree.
Well, a quick google search shows 200k (worldwide) people die each year from Drugs, compared to 2.5 million (worldwide) each year from Alcohol. A quick google search localized to the USA, indicates 100k people die from alcohol each year (2014 data - NIH) compared to 47k who died from drugs each year (2014 data - CDC).
You can take this (these stats) with a grain of salt but your assumption that the big bad drugs are soooooo much more harmful and deadly may just be off-base.
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That's like saying if a child is sexually assaulted by a teacher you feel it's the parents fault.
The world is a bad place, you can't save everybody from everything.
I was not basing my conclusion on deaths per year. I'm assuming the 2.5 mil number is based on the WHO study. This study included cancer (lots of cancers), violence, accidents (like drowning), etc. I'm sure the 200k number for all other drug deaths took those same factors into account right? Probably not, they probably only accounted for overdoses. The NIH data refers to "alcohol related deaths" vs the overdose death of drugs. So comparing those numbers is like apples to oranges.
The addictive nature of those drugs and pharmacological effects (say PCP for example) make it much more dangerous than alcohol. Would you rather deal with a drunk person or a person high on PCP? Do you believe drug deaths per year would increase if drugs were legalized? Do you believe drug usage would increase if legalized? Not to mention if we are using WHO's standards, all of the cancers, violence, and accidents that will come along with legalization of all drugs.
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