Has anyone here gotten a signoff yet from Sheriff Gautreaux? I dropped my Form 4 off on Monday with his secretary but haven't heard back about it yet. I was told during his campaign that he would sign Form 4s with no problem.
Sheriff Gautreaux CLEO Signoff
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CavalryJim
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Keep us posted.
Just picked up my signed Form 4 today for the silencer from the Sheriff's Office. Was quite an ordeal and took about eight weeks but I understand I submitted it during some hectic times for the office.
Quick rundown of what I went through to buy this thing:
07/31/07 Paid cash for silencer
11/16/07 Silencer arrives at dealer
12/19/07 Dropped Form 4 off at Sheriff's Office
01/10/08 Received call from Sheriff's office with questions about silencer
01/17/08 Received approved State transfer paperwork
02/11/08 Picked up signed Form 4 and mailed to BATFE
02/20/08 BATFE Cashed my check.
03/14/08 Went pending by ATF.
03/20/08 Notified problem with fingerprint cards. Have to call examiner tomorrow.
04/07/08 APPROVED!
Holy crap that took a long time.
Quick rundown of what I went through to buy this thing:
07/31/07 Paid cash for silencer
11/16/07 Silencer arrives at dealer
12/19/07 Dropped Form 4 off at Sheriff's Office
01/10/08 Received call from Sheriff's office with questions about silencer
01/17/08 Received approved State transfer paperwork
02/11/08 Picked up signed Form 4 and mailed to BATFE
02/20/08 BATFE Cashed my check.
03/14/08 Went pending by ATF.
03/20/08 Notified problem with fingerprint cards. Have to call examiner tomorrow.
04/07/08 APPROVED!
Holy crap that took a long time.
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Christerpar1313
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Hey aroundlsu...what dealer did you use and would you use them again?
-Chris-
-Chris-
Will at Red Stick Firearms helped me. Will always replies to my emails same day (usually within the hour). He placed the order with Gemtech same day I paid for it. He also didn't charge me a dime for the paperwork and let me shoot the can on his range after it came in. Unfortunately, it took over a month to get a Form 4 prepared for me and only after I asked for it twice. It took another call to get him to submit the Louisiana transfer paperwork.
Would I use him again? Well, he moved locations and doesn't have a range any longer so that really sucks. Kevin at Precision Firearms is also a Class 3 dealer and has a range you can use your toys at while you wait for the paperwork but he charges A LOT for the transfer.
If I was buying a $20,000 transferable machine gun I would use Kevin. For a silencer or any other inexpensive NFA item, I would use Will.
Quick suggestion: Find a silencer on a Form 3 IN STOCK READY TO GO or be prepared to wait months and months just to get it in stock. Don't believe the manufacturer when they say it will only be a few weeks.
My biggest gripe isn't with the dealer. It's with Gemtech. I'll never buy another product from them again. I called them every Friday for 3 months to check on the status and they lied to me every single time. It was always a different story they seemed to be making up on the spot. Other people have had similar experiences with Gemtech.
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Richard in LA
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How much is A LOT? I NEED to get off my arse and get this rolling, but Dont really know where to start. I have thought about the trust/llc, but have some questions regarding each, do you think he would be able to answer them?
also, congrats on the new toy
I think he says he charges $250 to handle the transfer which is worse than date rape (most other dealers charge $50) but please call and ask him yourself because I might have misunderstood him.
Kevin does know a lot about trusts. You can ask him directly. He's very easy to talk to. If you want to order one JUST DO IT! That's what I finally had to do after putting it off for 9 years. After you drop the cash it's too late to turn back.
I called Will at Red Jacket this afternoon, my approved paperwork wasn't in the mail today. Hopefully tomorrow. This part is the worst waiting so far. I actually had a dream about the damn silencer last night. lol
As soon as I get this done I can move on to my next project: A machine gun. Uzi or Mac-11?
Kevin does know a lot about trusts. You can ask him directly. He's very easy to talk to. If you want to order one JUST DO IT! That's what I finally had to do after putting it off for 9 years. After you drop the cash it's too late to turn back.
I called Will at Red Jacket this afternoon, my approved paperwork wasn't in the mail today. Hopefully tomorrow. This part is the worst waiting so far. I actually had a dream about the damn silencer last night. lol
As soon as I get this done I can move on to my next project: A machine gun. Uzi or Mac-11?
Richard in LA
Mag Whore
I think he says he charges $250 to handle the transfer which is worse than date rape (most other dealers charge $50) but please call and ask him yourself because I might have misunderstood him.
Kevin does know a lot about trusts. You can ask him directly. He's very easy to talk to. If you want to order one JUST DO IT! That's what I finally had to do after putting it off for 9 years. After you drop the cash it's too late to turn back.
I called Will at Red Jacket this afternoon, my approved paperwork wasn't in the mail today. Hopefully tomorrow. This part is the worst waiting so far. I actually had a dream about the damn silencer last night. lol
As soon as I get this done I can move on to my next project: A machine gun. Uzi or Mac-11?
WoW, I might have to call him or go by and speak to him directly, as thats kinda high. I have been eyeballing RR M16's for a while now, and I am now at a point in my career that I can do it, just need to find out about the Signoff/trust/llc. Have you ever dealt with the Class III guy in Brusly, extreme weapons, I think?
IIRC doesnt a LLC require you to file taxes at the end of the year? I dont have a personal business, so I dont want the hassle of dealing with that.
Does the CLEO that signs have to be the parish you reside in (I would think so)? Im an Ascension resident, but do know the Sheriff of WBRP's son-in-law
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Yes, CLEO must be in the Parish you reside but there is a long list of people who can sign, not just the Sheriff. I think Extreme Weapons is Kevin at Precision. Precision doesn't actually have a C3 license, but Kevin does and he works there so that's the place to call to set it up.
If you have an LLC setup for your guns and you make zero income you don't have to file taxes. However, you do have to send in the $35 or so every year to the city to keep the LLC. That, in my opinion, makes it not worth the hassle.
The trust issue in tricky in Louisiana. Louisiana only recognizes certain types of trusts. You need a lawyer who understands what you are doing for that. If you find one let me know. Quicken Willmaker will not work.
If you can get the sign off then just do that.
Precision doesn't actually have a C3 license, but Kevin does and he works there so that's the place to call to set it up.If you have an LLC setup for your guns and you make zero income you don't have to file taxes. However, you do have to send in the $35 or so every year to the city to keep the LLC. That, in my opinion, makes it not worth the hassle.
The trust issue in tricky in Louisiana. Louisiana only recognizes certain types of trusts. You need a lawyer who understands what you are doing for that. If you find one let me know. Quicken Willmaker will not work.
If you can get the sign off then just do that.
Richard in LA
Mag Whore
Hmm, a quick google search tells me that the contact for Xtreme weapons is Kevin R., guess its the same guy like you say.
So after forming an LLC you have to pay yearly to keep it "Licensed"? I am going to have to give my CPA/Attorney a call next week, Im sure he is kinda busy this week with taxes and all.
Anyone know if Jeff Wiley will sign off?
So after forming an LLC you have to pay yearly to keep it "Licensed"? I am going to have to give my CPA/Attorney a call next week, Im sure he is kinda busy this week with taxes and all.
Anyone know if Jeff Wiley will sign off?
My course of action would be
1. Locate a transferable M16 that you want on a Form 3 or Form 4.
2. Pay for it.
3. Tell Kevin you have one inbound to him. He'll take care of the rest.
4. Wait for it to get to Kevin.
While waiting you can call the Sheriff and ask if he'll sign. If not, set up the trust. If you can't set up a trust for some reason then set up an LLC.
My point is, don't worry about the LLC/Trust/Sign off right now. Just find an M16 and buy it and get it to Kevin. To get that far doesn't even require an ID.
1. Locate a transferable M16 that you want on a Form 3 or Form 4.
2. Pay for it.
3. Tell Kevin you have one inbound to him. He'll take care of the rest.
4. Wait for it to get to Kevin.
While waiting you can call the Sheriff and ask if he'll sign. If not, set up the trust. If you can't set up a trust for some reason then set up an LLC.
My point is, don't worry about the LLC/Trust/Sign off right now. Just find an M16 and buy it and get it to Kevin. To get that far doesn't even require an ID.
Richard in LA
Mag Whore
That is what Kevin told me, set up an appointment with him, and it shouldnt be a problem. Let me know how it goes.
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