Over gassed?

kz45 said:

If you're running a can without adj gas or some other means of taming the gas, then yes, over gassed!

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DAVE_M said:

That's not entirely true.

You'd be surprised how many guns are out of spec and run fine unsuppressed, but are catastrophic suppressed. In spec guns should be okay suppressed.

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kz45 said:

As a left handed shooter I noticed a huge difference in gas in my face after in installed the Govnah, it's a pleasure to shoot now, I also have a 10.5" Noveske ( I would think it'd be in spec, but who knows?) that I almost hated to shoot, I put a suppressed BCG in it and no it to is a pleasure to shoot. Even if the gun is in spec the can does increase back pressure, so regulating the gas some how should/would be a good thing

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wilkinsonrww said:

Not a factory upper, never had an issue before. I ran the upper for a while on my sbr lower when I was waiting for the stamp, compared the 2 buffers and the other one looks just fine. The one that mushroomed, don't remember where it came from. The other lower never made a sound while shooting, but this one did as soon as I started running with the can. I would always check my brass and it was always good, a little dirty but no ftf, or jams or damage to the spent casings.
After looking around tonight, I'm leaning towards bad cheap parts, China. I'll change out the buffer and spring 1st, we'll see what happens then. Thanks for the info!!

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wilkinsonrww said:

On this tool I'm running a magpul ubr, same setup as my 300blk sbr. The buffer that is damaged doesn't have the roll pin and seems to be pretty cheaply made, I'll start with that first. Thanks again

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bsoileau24 said:

That sounds like a carbine buffer. I would start with a h2 and new spring.

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DAVE_M said:

Yep, that definitely sounds like a carbine buffer. An H2 and a good spring from Sprinco would set you right.

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bsoileau24 said:

Blue spring from spingco?

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"WHITE Spring" STANDARD Power Buffer Spring. Equivalent spring load to a *fresh* Mil-Spec M4 Carbine Spring. This spring will perform reliably in any properly configured and maintained 5.56 Carbine, if you wish to maintain the performance of a *fresh* Mil-Spec load spring without concern for replacement. This is the best choice for shooters and purists that wish to maintain the performance of most factory supplied NEW Mil-Spec springs, but do not wish to be concerned with frequent replacement of same or do not have the time or inclination to seek enhanced performance options. The "WHITE" spring is recommended for 10.0"-11.0" SBR's with H2 Buffers, 1st Gen M&P's, older RRA's with under 18"+ BBL's, early generation Colt 6920 LE's, 5.56 & 6.8 SPC 7.5"-8.5" BBL Piston Guns with H2 Buffers, with few exceptions, most .300 AAC Platforms, longer carbine barrels using intermediate or rifle length gas, and when training with SRTA and other low power and light charged *budget* rounds. Color Coded WHITE. [EXCEPTIONS: With SBR's which are seriously overgassed firing suppressed, (e.g. 10.3" HK 416's), a RED or ORANGE along with a hydraulic buffer is often used with great success.]

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