Some fun at the range.

981GT4 · Jan 16, 2017

What better way to spend a day off then shooting? Even better all by myself.

homeslice · Jan 16, 2017

So peaceful - I had a good day out yesterday solo as well. Love the echo and the quiet between shots.

Whitebread · Jan 16, 2017

All by your lonesome??? I'm jealous. I went shooting yesterday, there was a more than a couple shooters around me. How were your groups?

mike84z28 · Jan 16, 2017

Looks like Slidell area

981GT4 · Jan 16, 2017

Whitebread said:
All by your lonesome??? I'm jealous. I went shooting yesterday, there was a more than a couple shooters around me. How were your groups?

Good , max range here is 75m. so groups were good around 1/4 inch with my AR. 1/2 inch with the PSL

All on a 8 inch target.

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mike84z28 said:
Looks like Slidell area

I have access to Camp Villere, as LEO

Whitebread · Jan 16, 2017

981GT4 said:
Good , max range here is 75m so groups were good around 1/5 inch with my AR. 1/2 inch with the PSL

All on a 8 inch target.

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I have access to Camp Villere, as LEO

Nice. I'm gonna build myself a range one day for this very purpose solitude!

981GT4 · Jan 16, 2017

Whitebread said:
Nice. I'm gonna build myself a range one day for this very purpose solitude!

I do go to MCTA is kiln for the longer shooting range, just didn't feel link going to far today.

JCcypress · Jan 16, 2017

1/4 MOA with an AR is really, really impressive.

Are you doing that with a 16" barrel? What's your rifle set-up? Are you hand loading?

Vanilla Gorilla · Jan 16, 2017

981GT4 said:
Good , max range here is 75m so groups were good around 1/5 inch with my AR. 1/2 inch with the PSL

All on a 8 inch target.

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I have access to Camp Villere, as LEO

What agency do you work for? I'm curious how you are measuring your groups. 1/4" accuracy form an AR15 is extraordinarily hard to attain.

981GT4 · Jan 16, 2017

Been shooting m4s for a long time in military. I'm a firearms instructor for DHS.

I have a 10.5 inch barrel 1:7 5.56 . I was using. 223 Remington today

It's not hard doing 1/4 inch groups from prone at 25M for zero. With Irons. Using sig Sauer H&K style.

Backing up to 75m obviously not going to get the same group. By everything was within a half Dollars size at distance.

As well as shooting longer with 10.5 inch barrel. The shots won't be as tight , but should be withing 8 inch diameter kill zone. Which is what counts.

Vanilla Gorilla · Jan 16, 2017

981GT4 said:
Been shooting m4s for a long time in military. I'm a firearms instructor for DHS.

I have a 10.5 inch barrel 1:7 5.56 . I was using. 223 Remington today

It's not hard doing 1/4 MOA from prone at 25M for zero. With Irons. Using sig Sauer H&K style.

Backing up to 75m obviously not going to get the same group. By everything was within a half Dollars size at distance.

As well as shooting longer with 10.5 inch barrel. The shots won't be as tight , but should be withing 8 inch diameter kill zone. Which is what counts.

MOA is a specific unit of measurement, and you are using it wrong.

http://www.sniperforums.com/forum/sop/31135-measuring-moa-target.html

Here is a ref. Congrats on owning the most accurate 10.5" AR ever and also on getting far better than match grade accuracy out of bargain Ammo.

mickey · Jan 16, 2017

981GT4 said:
Good , max range here is 75m so groups were good around 1/5 inch with my AR. 1/2 inch with the PSL

All on a 8 inch target.

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I have access to Camp Villere, as LEO

Nice
Got pics of those groups?
Love to see them

981GT4 · Jan 16, 2017

Vanilla Gorilla said:
MOA is a specific unit of measurement, and you are using it wrong.

http://www.sniperforums.com/forum/sop/31135-measuring-moa-target.html

Here is a ref. Congrats on owning the most accurate 10.5" AR ever and also on getting far better than match grade accuracy out of bargain Ammo.

MOA is the drop of the round to distance. 1 MOA= 1 inch per 100yrds

981GT4 · Jan 16, 2017

Here my groups. During my zero. First set was low left still tight. Adjustments got me to were I wanted.

dime for size.

981GT4 · Jan 16, 2017

Vanilla Gorilla said:
MOA is a specific unit of measurement, and you are using it wrong.

http://www.sniperforums.com/forum/sop/31135-measuring-moa-target.html

Here is a ref. Congrats on owning the most accurate 10.5" AR ever and also on getting far better than match grade accuracy out of bargain Ammo.

feel free to come out to Slidell. I'll show you how to shoot. It's not rocket science.

Vanilla Gorilla · Jan 17, 2017

981GT4 said:
Here my groups. During my zero. First set was low left still tight. Adjustments got me to were I wanted.

dime for size.

No that's not what MOA, it's an over simplification. If you were shooting 1/4 MOA at 75M you would be shooting approximately 1/16" groups. These aren't 1/16" groups. Before you wave your I-cock around the room you should make sure you understand the room. You are shooting 2" groups btw.

Vanilla Gorilla · Jan 17, 2017

981GT4 said:
feel free to come out to Slidell. I'll show you how to shoot. It's not rocket science.

Actually it specifically is rocket science lol. Trigonometry and what not but hey hyperbole is good...

What day is good for you? I'll book the range at Villere.

3fifty7 · Jan 17, 2017

I almost feel as if a welcome back is in order.

Sent via telegraph with the same fingers I use to sip whiskey.

981GT4 · Jan 17, 2017

Vanilla Gorilla said:
No that's not what MOA, it's an over simplification. If you were shooting 1/4 MOA at 75M you would be shooting approximately 1/16" groups. These aren't 1/16" groups. Before you wave your I-cock around the room you should make sure you understand the room. You are shooting 2" groups btw.

1 MOA is 1 Inch drop per 100M. not sure how hard that is to understand. sure there is more to it then that. noone here is disputing that. but generally this is how its calculated. Secondly, no one was waving their I dick around until you showed up with your smart ass comments , saying it impossible to shoot these groups with a 10.5 inch barrel at 75M. 75 M is not very far. Generally i zero at 25M which my groups would be even tighter. and those are not 2" in groups. measured with a caliper from my smallest group. you measure from one round to the last round. then minus the bullet diameter which would be .223. my smallest shot group was .7-.223= 0.477

Vanilla Gorilla · Jan 17, 2017

981GT4 said:
1 MOA is 1 Inch drop per 100M. not sure how hard that is to understand. sure there is more to it then that. noone here is disputing that. but generally this is how its calculated. Secondly, no one was waving their I dick around until you showed up with your smart ass comments , saying it impossible to shoot these groups with a 10.5 inch barrel at 75M. 75 M is not very far. Generally i zero at 25M which my groups would be even tighter. and those are not 2" in groups. measured with a caliper from my smallest group. you measure from one round to the last round. then minus the bullet diameter which would be .223. my smallest shot group was .7-.223= 0.477

Did you measure that dime with a caliper? I will bet you a paycheck that you aren't shooting 1/4 MOA groups. There are people in this board who shoot F Class and PRS that can go into more detail on how to measure shot groups, but, you are doing it wrong.

Edited to ad: so now you are changing your story front he groups being 1/4 MOA to being 1/4"? Lol do you understand that's not the same thing? It is rocket science but it's simple rocket science.

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