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Thread: 45- 70 Derringer "The Skinny"

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    Thumbs up 45- 70 Derringer "The Skinny"



    Hi
    I aquired an American Derringer Model M-4 Alaskan Survival derringer in a trade.
    Chamberd top 45-70 bottom 45-410 ammo

    I must ask has anyone seen or shot a 45-70 round out of a derringer????

    Can 45-70 be reloaded with a lighter grain powder?

    Any advise or help would surely be appreciated.

    Thanks
    Snookie
    Last edited by Snookie; April 18th, 2010 at 02:43 PM.

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    Mag Whore

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    Richard in LA's Avatar
    Wow. .45-70 derringer? No thanks!

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    Marksman

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    Dude are you sure? I can't comprehend a .45-70 shot out of a derringer.

    That makes shooting a .357 magnum out of an airweight seem like shooting a .22

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    YUP

    Yes Gentlemen I'm sure!!

    Who wants to trade??? LOL

    Can anyone chime in that has had one or knows if 45-70 ammo can be loaded lighter to be able to use the 45-70 in a derringer?

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    Damn Yankee. Coonie's Avatar
    Don't even try to use the sights!!

    I have two occurences with the 45-70 derringer,

    1.) A friend owned one and shot a store bought round through it, then he let his friend fire the other round, both times the same reaction, weak hand shot up and removed the pistol from the now numb strong hand.....He then sold the item.

    2.) At my local range, where I was employed, on my day off I went in to BS and the moment I walked in a shooter came off the line and started yelling someone had been shot in the head. the manager ran into the booth and I called 911, after the EMT's left the manager pulled me aside and told me that he entered the booth, the injured party had blood coming from his forehead, the wound was about 3''s in length and didn't appear to be an entry wound, the injured party was dazed and semi-conscious, the manager removed the derringer from his hand and checked him for bp, trouble breathing, ect, the manager started asking questions and at this point it was apparent what had happened, the injured shooter had tried to fire the weapon with bent elbows close to the face to see the sights and clocked himself with the derringer.

    I strongly suggest sticking with .410ga and skipping the 45-70 rounds, and if your going to keep it, use it as a conversation piece.

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    Damn Yankee. Coonie's Avatar
    There's a reason that gun was traded!!

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    Thanks
    Shot 45 LC and 410 in it yesterday
    Great experience now can the 45-70 be rebored to shoot 410?
    That way 410 top 45 bottom???

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    Damn Yankee. Coonie's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Snookie View Post
    Thanks
    Shot 45 LC and 410 in it yesterday
    Great experience now can the 45-70 be rebored to shoot 410?
    That way 410 top 45 bottom???
    Don't know if it can or if it's worth it, you might check to see about getting a replacement/spare barrel set for it.

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    Thanks John

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    Marksman Saftman's Avatar
    I'll pay $10.00 to watch you shoot it!
    Never underestimate the power of Stupid People in large numbers.

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    I'm kind of a big deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saftman View Post
    I'll pay $10.00 to watch you shoot it!
    +1

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    Marksman dwr461's Avatar
    45-70 in a derringer? I wonder who thought that was a good idea?

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    Damn Yankee. Coonie's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Saftman View Post
    I'll pay $10.00 to watch you shoot it!
    "Hold my beer and watch this........"

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    Damn Yankee. Coonie's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Snookie View Post
    Thanks John

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    rifleman Mr_Willson's Avatar
    look at the muzzle flash
    he almost hits himself in the face
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    Marksman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard in LA View Post
    Wow. .45-70 derringer? No thanks!
    + a bunch. One of those "here's your sign" moments. Had the opportunity and after seeing 1st young idiot shoot, this old idiot said "nah...."
    I don't know the structural integrity of the gun, but I doubt if anyone has fired more than 2/3 rounds of 45-70 to test its strength.
    Last edited by Storm52; April 17th, 2010 at 08:53 PM.
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    Marksman Swami's Avatar
    At the range? No thanks! But, as far as "Alaskan Survival" goes, I'd rather shoot it than be mauled by a bear.

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    tactical hangover

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    themcfarland's Avatar
    hehehehe, I cant even handle a 45 lc through one very well.

  19. #19
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    Not So Bad

    Hum

    Watched the U-Tube video
    DIDN'T LOOK SO BAD!!!!

  20. #20
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    Thumbs up 45- 70 Derringer "The Skinny"

    Ok Folks

    Here's the "SKINNY"

    After viewing many post and doing actual shooting experiments here are the results!

    The American Derringer Model M-4 Alaskan Survival Model 45-70 UP.(TOP) .45 Colt/410 Down(BOTTOM) Barrel

    A. Can shoot 3" or 2 1/2"410 or .45 Long Colt in Bottom Barrel
    B. Can shoot 45-70 or 410 2 1/2 Rifle Slug in Top Barrel

    Synopsis:

    Have shot several rounds.45 and 410 ammo in both barrels.
    (Quiet Managable)
    NO ATTEMPT AT 45-70 AMMO
    SO will keep this BEAR/GATOR/COON STOPPER!
    Will make a good motorcycle gun! I LIKE DAT ME!


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