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July 1st, 2009, 03:37 PM
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The PUNisher
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What would be good ways to promote and advocate open carry?
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July 1st, 2009, 03:58 PM
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XD-GEM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: New Orleans
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Originally Posted by Bayoupiper
What would be good ways to promote and advocate open carry?
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Thank you for asking. There are many ways which have been discussed in the main areas of the OCDO website. Groups in Virginia and Pennsylvania have had a great deal of success with Open Carry lunches, dinners, and picnics. Members in other states have done Adopt-a Highway programs and done an OC litter pickup. Our Louisiana members have been trying to organize a few things along similar lines, although some on this board have derided and belittled those efforts. We truely want to change public opinion about gun owners in a favorable manner and are willing to run the "tactical disadvantage" risk if it will mean an improved attitude from the general public towards gun owners in general.
These are some simple examples wherein the public who come into contact with the group get to see normal, average people - families in many cases - do ordinary things (they just also happen to be armed).
Wisconsin members have recently gotten the Attorney General to publicly back OC, and that is going a long way toward convincing people to loosen up that state's Concealed Carry laws. Unfortunately that effort has also engendered some stiff opposition from one big-city police chief who publicly proclaimed that he would order his "troops" (his word) to throw down to the ground anyone OCing. His reaction has stirred up a great deal of opposition to his views among the otherwise non-gun-rights aware public who rightly perceive such tactics as anathema to American ideals of fairness.
Finally, simply exercising the right to OC on a frequent basis and being ready to answer questions from the curious in a polite and friendly manner will go a long way toward winning a favorable opinion of ALL gun owners in the minds of the people we encounter.
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July 1st, 2009, 05:21 PM
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Marine Grunt
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Lake Charles Area
Age: 29
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Originally Posted by XD-GEM
Thank you for asking. There are many ways which have been discussed in the main areas of the OCDO website. Groups in Virginia and Pennsylvania have had a great deal of success with Open Carry lunches, dinners, and picnics. Members in other states have done Adopt-a Highway programs and done an OC litter pickup. Our Louisiana members have been trying to organize a few things along similar lines, although some on this board have derided and belittled those efforts. We truely want to change public opinion about gun owners in a favorable manner and are willing to run the "tactical disadvantage" risk if it will mean an improved attitude from the general public towards gun owners in general.
These are some simple examples wherein the public who come into contact with the group get to see normal, average people - families in many cases - do ordinary things (they just also happen to be armed).
Wisconsin members have recently gotten the Attorney General to publicly back OC, and that is going a long way toward convincing people to loosen up that state's Concealed Carry laws. Unfortunately that effort has also engendered some stiff opposition from one big-city police chief who publicly proclaimed that he would order his "troops" (his word) to throw down to the ground anyone OCing. His reaction has stirred up a great deal of opposition to his views among the otherwise non-gun-rights aware public who rightly perceive such tactics as anathema to American ideals of fairness.
Finally, simply exercising the right to OC on a frequent basis and being ready to answer questions from the curious in a polite and friendly manner will go a long way toward winning a favorable opinion of ALL gun owners in the minds of the people we encounter.
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Good Job XD 
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July 1st, 2009, 07:21 PM
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Resident Dimwit
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Baton Rouge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bayoupiper
What would be good ways to promote and advocate open carry?
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Therein lies the difference. Their agenda is to "promote."
People who carry concealed do so to protect themselves and their loved ones.
The Open-Carry disciples want to "educate" amd "change public opinion." It's an ego thing. Very little to do with self defense .... more to do with "Look at me - I have a gun."
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July 1st, 2009, 07:32 PM
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Marine Grunt
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Lake Charles Area
Age: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg23
Therein lies the difference. Their agenda is to "promote."
People who carry concealed do so to protect themselves and their loved ones.
The Open-Carry disciples want to "educate" amd "change public opinion." It's an ego thing. Very little to do with self defense .... more to do with "Look at me - I have a gun."
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Change public opinion - Ego - Look I have a gun ?
Um, Ok ...
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July 1st, 2009, 07:49 PM
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XD-GEM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: New Orleans
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg23
Therein lies the difference. Their agenda is to "promote."
People who carry concealed do so to protect themselves and their loved ones.
The Open-Carry disciples want to "educate" amd "change public opinion." It's an ego thing. Very little to do with self defense .... more to do with "Look at me - I have a gun."
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If we can change the public's opinion about gun owners for the better, dawg, they might even not mind the fact that you're armed.
And the changing of public opinion is in order to FACILITATE our carrying for defense of self and others.
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July 2nd, 2009, 12:12 PM
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NRA life member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: laplace,louisiana
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Went To Open Carry.org First & It Showed Opencarry.mywowbb.com Tryed That Sight And It Went Right To It. When I Tryed To Go To Opencarry.mywowbb.com First In My Web Brouser It Came Back Check Spelling And Would Not Connect At All? Strange
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July 2nd, 2009, 02:38 PM
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Slave to Society
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I certainly see benefits on educating the public on an issue that is a constitutional right.
Now the methods could be argued, but the point seems valid.
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July 8th, 2009, 01:58 PM
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Marksman
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FishingBack
I certainly see benefits on educating the public on an issue that is a constitutional right.
Now the methods could be argued, but the point seems valid.
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I agree. Go see the ongoing thread entitled "Open Carry Registry".
I asked them about 4 times what good the "kicking the bull" approach has done and instead of answering my questions all they've done is resort to personal attacks.
What a good group of people over there. Smoking357 even called me a troll!  
You should go read how that came about. It's rather humorous.
P.S. Sure I troll forums, what else is there to do at work? 
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July 8th, 2009, 02:15 PM
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Marine Grunt
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Lake Charles Area
Age: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FishingBack
Now the methods could be argued,
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Which is defintley the biggest issue.
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Originally Posted by kdick3
Smoking357 even called me a troll!  
You should go read how that came about. It's rather humorous.
P.S. Sure I troll forums, what else is there to do at work? 
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Smokingcrack365 has his head so far up Marks ass he can't even see. I seriously doubt that he's ever even carried a firearm.
How Nola got banned, yet this guy got to stay is beyond me. I even pm'd Mike and Jpierce to request his removal. Yet he remains...
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