revolver for POST instructor?

[returningliberty]

Just out of curiosity, what revolvers are mostly seen at the POST firearms instructor course? Do they have action work done to them etc?

 

[Just A Number]

S&W 19 is popular was popular and so was the Ruger SP101. The price was really good on the Rugers and they are bombproof so I suspect that explains the prevalence. No action work on the guns as they have to be "duty" guns.

 

[jmcrawf1]

Don't be a cheater. Shoot the instructor course with your duty weapon.

 

[bwalke1]

a S&W 686 4" or a S&W model 14/15 4", i would shy away from the rugers, not because they are not a good/well built pistol but because i've seen alot of the rugers key hole when shooting lead bullets at the 25 yd line. something about the barrel rifling but i dont remember the details. i have seen it happen enough to know i dont want to be shooting one all day for the POST course. i used the 686 because of the extra weight to help with the recoil for faster follow up shots. dont forget speed loaders also, i used the safariland models because they are faster to use, no knob to twist, just insert and push, done. i had enough speed loaders to shoot the whole course (60 rounds). spend your time thinking and breathing and not reloading, it will keep you ahead of the curve.

 

[returningliberty]

Thanks for the quick replies guys. LSP, don't take this the wrong way but I'm really happy I won't have to try the bullseye portion one handed. That would suck.
I figured I'd have to bite the bullet and really she'll out the cash for a S&W, but I was hoping there'd be a cheaper alternative, especially since after I train with it and use it for the course, I'll have absolutely no use for it lol. Not a revolver guy.

 

[JR1572]

I would use a Glock 34 with a good set of adjustable sights before I would waste my time with a revolver.

JR1572

 

[JBP55]

Most are using a 4" 66 or 686 with "action work". They will "test" the pistol on the line prior to shooting.
With the cylinder empty and the pistol cocked to fire in single action the hammer must not drop when pulled from rear to front to 7#'s on a trigger gauge.
DO NOT send your new revolver with MIM parts to Ed for "action work". There are a few out there that will tune it for you.
As JR said you could do as "Russ" did, he shot the course with his duty pistol which is a G34 with night sights but "Russ" is manly.

 

[returningliberty]

Most are using a 4" 66 or 686 with "action work". They will "test" the pistol on the line prior to shooting.
With the cylinder empty and the pistol cocked to fire in single action the hammer must not drop when pulled from rear to front to 7#'s on a trigger gauge.
DO NOT send your new revolver with MIM parts to Ed for "action work". There are a few out there that will tune it for you.
As JR said you could do as "Russ" did, he shot the course with his duty pistol which is a G34 with night sights but "Russ" is manly.

I suppose I could try it with my 35... That would keep me from having to buy a new gun. I'd almost certainly switch the sights though.

 

[JBP55]

I suppose I could try it with my 35... That would keep me from having to buy a new gun. I'd almost certainly switch the sights though.

You need to shoot at least 260 on a regular basis before you try out as most drop 15-20 points under stress when being tested.

 

[pwl822]

many people try out .only a few make it. only shot once a year . its all about accuracy. shot it with glock 34. lots people do shoot revolver. alot of smiths.

 

[Bayoupiper]

They WILL check the trigger pull first thing.




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[Vanilla Gorilla]

Thanks for the quick replies guys. LSP, don't take this the wrong way but I'm really happy I won't have to try the bullseye portion one handed. That would suck.
I figured I'd have to bite the bullet and really she'll out the cash for a S&W, but I was hoping there'd be a cheaper alternative, especially since after I train with it and use it for the course, I'll have absolutely no use for it lol. Not a revolver guy.

If you can't pass the current course with a stock semi-auto pistol your not ready to be a Firearms Instructor.

 

[returningliberty]

If you can't pass the current course with a stock semi-auto pistol your not ready to be a Firearms Instructor.

Rough dude. So all the guys using wheel guns to shoot it are wrong?

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Yes they are cheating by taking advantage of a flawed and corrupt system. How about this you make people shoot the gun their agency will be having them train people on. The course of fire isn't that difficult. It's a sad state of affairs when you have to game it to pass. Hell why not show up with a Bowling Pin Gun or a Bullseye Gun?

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

To effectively instruct something you have to have mastered the subject at the practioneer level. If you have to use a tricked out revolver it tells me you haven't done that. Im not pointing this at you specifically RL just in general. The LA POST commission is a joke. They have never encountered a standard they can't lower or practice they can't circumvent. Thanks Sheriff's Association!

 

[returningliberty]

Ok, politics aside, I get what you're saying. But when everybody I talk to says "you need to get proficient with and use ( x platform) to take this test" or whatever, I try to pay attention.

 

[JR1572]

If you can't pass the current course with a stock semi-auto pistol your not ready to be a Firearms Instructor.

This. If you can't shoot a well grouped 120 on the POST with a service semi auto you have no business being an instructor.

How long have you been in LE? Rookies have a hard time trying to be firearms instructors.

JR1572

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Ok, politics aside, I get what you're saying. But when everybody I talk to says "you need to get proficient with and use ( x platform) to take this test" or whatever, I try to pay attention.

They should focus more on learning fundamentals and take the training wheels off. To me its no different than allowing someone to qualify with a substitute weapon because they cant make the grade with their service weapon.

 

[chad]

Ok, politics aside, I get what you're saying. But when everybody I talk to says "you need to get proficient with and use ( x platform) to take this test" or whatever, I try to pay attention.

When I met VG I thought I was an awesome shooter. I quickly learned that my SA revolvers and 1911's gave me a false sense that I can shoot. Anyone can score well with a single action 4" Smith, even their first time shooting. Doing it with a Glock is different. You actually need trigger control and breathing techniques and stance.

 

[returningliberty]

They should focus more on learning fundamentals and take the training wheels off. To me its no different than allowing someone to qualify with a substitute weapon because they cant make the grade with their service weapon.

I can see this too. Honestly I'd probably be more efficient with my g35 than a revolver I haven't trained on for more than a couple of months. I haven't even seen the instructor qualification course of fire yet though, and everyone I've talked to so far is making me nervous about it.

JR, anyone can score 120's all day long on the regular POST course if they have even a modicum of training and are paying attention. The normal POST course is a joke.


You guys sure are feisty about this topic, I just wanted to know what types of revolvers everyone uses when they shoot the course.

ETA: I probably shouldn't say 120's all day long, everyone makes mistakes. I'll say the cutoff should be more like 115. First time I shot it, I had never seen it before and was flat out embarrassed to turn in a 117 target.