Should Boston bombing suspect get a Miranda warning?

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  • Should Boston bombing suspect get a Miranda warning?

    • Yes

      Votes: 41 71.9%
    • No

      Votes: 16 28.1%

    • Total voters
      57

    TruBrew

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    I am kind of surprised that 6 people so far have voted no. Even though he is not natural born, he is still a citizen and is entitled to all the rights that go along with that.
     

    oleheat

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    I think the two had ties to (and are possibly part of) a larger group. Just my personal opinion.

    It is now known the Russians tipped off the Feds about the older brother in 2011 and asked them to question him.

    Many out there have warned for years the "Chechen problem" would one day be a problem on our own shores.
     

    Hitman

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    Yes. It would be horrible for him to get off on a technicality!

    On the down side finding him an impartial jury is going to be difficult after the last week's media circus.

    The real problem of catching these terrorist alive is that other groups are going to use him as a rallying point. We'll probably have more incidents soon and they'll demand his release in exchange for hostages.

    You sure?

    I mean Nidal Hasan killed 13 PEOPLE and wounded 30, 3.5 YEARS AGO!!

    He still breathes air as we speak. How many attacks have been done in his name?


    These are Boston Bombers are Chechen Terrorist. They ARE NOT the same faction as Al-Qaeda.

    So what's the link between Middle Eastern Al-Qaeda and these Russian/Chechen Terrorist?
     

    BenCarp27

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    My opinion: Mirandize him.

    If this is pushed through the standard court proceedings, it levels the playing field, and gives the defense one less angle to defend from.

    If it's pushed through the federal court system, and he is later labeled as an "enemy combatant", then great. Taking two minutes of his time at that point won't affect the proceedings, and the Feds will push it through regardless.

    The argument over pushing the death penalty really isn't a concern of mine, to be honest. If they inject the guy, great. If they let him rot in a federal prison under 23 hour, daily lock down, great.

    I'd be more concerned with the investigation leading to a full understanding of the two brothers' actions, as well as developing good intel on who/what led to their radicalization.

    I'd gladly see this guy live in a cell for eternity, if it meant we identified some really nasty players on the domestic front.

    I think the key, at this point, is to develop the best understanding possible of the domestic terror situation. These two brothers may have been flashes in the pan, or they may have been the product of a new wave of anti-American sentiment, that we are now just understanding.

    Hopefully, the U.S. can utilize the short period of public approval to identify and deport select persons of interests, without the Left-Wing uproar.

    Which route his court proceedings take is of no consequence to me, as I firmly believe there will be no surprise rulings, and he will either die from execution, or rot for the rest of his life.

    This is just my opinion.
     

    ahamay79

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    Of course you read him his Miranda rights. He's a naturalized U.S. citizen. Let the courts send him to jail for life so he can be Big Bubba's girlfriend. End of story.
     

    Tboh21

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    I am kind of surprised that 6 people so far have voted no. Even though he is not natural born, he is still a citizen and is entitled to all the rights that go along with that.

    On providing this piece of garbage his rights: 'We' should do it for our sake, not his.
     

    oleheat

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    Anyone else find it interesting that he became a citizen on 9-11-2012?
     

    Sugarbug

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    I imagine that public safety is their number one concern. They might step on his rights with the understanding that any information gained before mirandizing him will likely not be admissible in court.
     

    Cat

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    Maybe the question should be,
    "Should Sleeper Cell Terrorist be treated like US Citizens when they finally attack the US"?

    If he was part of a Sleeper Cell, should he receive all benefits as American Citizens do?


    THANK YOU!


    What he did was an act of terrorism. We have declared war on terrorism. Ergo: he is an enemy combatant.


    He will be mirandized. Just not at that point. For all we know he already HAS BEEN mirandized since the city does not appear to be under any imminent threat.


    very primitively, I took this to mean that they could have mirandized him and asked him immediately: "Are there other bombs". He could have said yes I'm not telling or yes, they are here, here and here but you are too late. Three more are killed. Could they hold his admission against him in court then? Or just try him under three murders which a successful defense could use his dead brother as a scape goat?

    It makes sense. He terrorized and killed hundreds.

    He hasn't been Mirandized for now. He still gets that. I doubt very much they would officially charge him without reading him his rights at that time. By the time he enters a formal investigation room, I suspect he will be mirandized. He still gets a trial. We haven't removed his rights as a citizen considering his actions.
     
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    kcinnick

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    Do they give politicians the lobotomy when before they run for office or when they are sworn in?

    The Public Safety exception is abused, but in this case I don't see an issue with using it. If they haven't learned what they needed from him by now, they probably won't get anything out of him within the law. They should read him his rights and focus on finding evidence, these guys didn't seem like the two brightest bulbs on the tree, I am sure they have left a trail if they have ties to a group.
     

    LACamper

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    I said we should read his rights. I didn't say this shouldn't be the fastest trial and series of appeals in the history of the US court system. He was tossing explosives at cops. I'm sure they matched the Boston bombing. This should be an open and shut case. His execution should be a televised event. Maybe the next Superbowl half time show? (Lord knows it would be better than the last few!)
     

    in625shooter

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    You sure?

    I mean Nidal Hasan killed 13 PEOPLE and wounded 30, 3.5 YEARS AGO!!

    He still breathes air as we speak. How many attacks have been done in his name?


    These are Boston Bombers are Chechen Terrorist. They ARE NOT the same faction as Al-Qaeda.

    So what's the link between Middle Eastern Al-Qaeda and these Russian/Chechen Terrorist?


    Actually there IS a relation between the Chechens and Al Qaeda. Many Chechnens took part along with Al Qaeda fighting against the US and allies in Afghnastan.

    As far as the Maj Hasan case that is a perfect example why they should give up the Military tribunal. It is a joke and the defendents make a mockery of it. I work for the Department of Justice if you compare both the tribunal to Federal court there IS NO comparison. The Federal courts have convicted hundreds of defendends with ties to terrorist orginazations. Military has not been so successful.

    If the American Taliban Walker-Lihn (an American citizen) would have beed turned over to a tribunal what would his status be? Probably like the others still to be decided.
     

    dixiejarhead

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    Actually there IS a relation between the Chechens and Al Qaeda. Many Chechnens took part along with Al Qaeda fighting against the US and allies in Afghnastan.

    As far as the Maj Hasan case that is a perfect example why they should give up the Military tribunal. It is a joke and the defendents make a mockery of it. I work for the Department of Justice if you compare both the tribunal to Federal court there IS NO comparison. The Federal courts have convicted hundreds of defendends with ties to terrorist orginazations. Military has not been so successful.

    If the American Taliban Walker-Lihn (an American citizen) would have beed turned over to a tribunal what would his status be? Probably like the others still to be decided.

    If it could be proven that these two acted as agents of a foreign country against the US, then perhaps there would be a case....
     

    madwabbit

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    im shocked at the audacity of any member here that has ever complained about their rights being violated, that would then state that this guy doesn't deserve his.

    if they are NOT american citizens, they are not protected and do not have the rights thereto. example: gitmo detainees
    if they ARE citizens, no matter the atrocity they deserve the same procedure that we receive. example: Timothy Mcveigh

    he's going to face a jury of american citizens that saw this attack 100 times on television. don't worry about the outcome...
     

    JadeRaven

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    im shocked at the audacity of any member here that has ever complained about their rights being violated, that would then state that this guy doesn't deserve his.

    if they are NOT american citizens, they are not protected and do not have the rights thereto. example: gitmo detainees
    if they ARE citizens, no matter the atrocity they deserve the same procedure that we receive. example: Timothy Mcveigh

    he's going to face a jury of american citizens that saw this attack 100 times on television. don't worry about the outcome...

    Yeah.

    American Citizen = innocent until proven guilty, right to trial by jury, etc.

    All this no Miranda stuff is ********. McCain, et al are loonies.
     

    JBP55

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    Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was charged in his hospital room Monday with using a weapon of mass destruction to kill _ a crime that carries a possible death sentence.
     

    JBP55

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    Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was charged in his hospital room Monday with using a weapon of mass destruction to kill _ a crime that carries a possible death sentence.
     

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