LouisianaGuy
Well-Known Member
Don't know if this is the right place for this but here it is.
Mods move it if its wrong please
Well here is the latest of what Im 99.9% sure is a scam, and almost perfect Sort of.
Last night I was browsing the classifieds while in bed on the old I-Pad, and I came across a Nice Kimber Ultra Raptor II.
I didnt want one but I have a friend who has another 1911 I want and he was looking for one like this one, so I figured the price was pretty good and I would
just pick it up and make a trade to my buddy.
I don't recall which website it was but I'm sure I can find it if I look hard enough.
Anyhow the Ad. had about 4 pics and a description of the gun...It looked and sounded Legit...there was also a phone number and email attached and it said call or Text.
I thought Ok I'll text and in the morning maybe I will have a response.
Well as it turns out I got a response that said "Yes the Kimber is still avaliable"
Awesome I thought, so I text him back and said I couldnt talk right now but I could text..."I was in a meeting LOL"
So we text back and forth for a while with me asking questions about the gun and requesting a few more pics...The fellow said he would email me more pics...Cool.
I then asked about payment and shipping, and asked that he cover FFL fees on his end and I would cover them on mine.
A few minutes later I get an Email.....Awesome....I open it and find more pics of my friends soon to be new gun haha...
There is also a copy if an FFL attached, so I was like well no Fees on his end. Now I wouldn't have to haggle prices, even better.
I then got a response via text saying that he was an FFL dealer...ok well I see the paper.
So then I asked about payment method, and he said either Money Gram or i could send it to his account.
I don't know anything about money gram, so I am lost on that one but I'm pretty sure no one in their right mind would give you an account number right?
But I thought what the hell maybe its some Ebay thing now...So not knowing anything about Money Gram I asked how I could get the money to his account.
He replied by saying he would prefer Money Gram...Ok red Flag.
When I got freed up at work I sat down and got on the trusty old internet where I learned a load of info about FFL's but didn't learn anything about his.
I hit the ATF ez Check, then pulled complete lists for about the past 5 years for Florida which is what the address on his Certificate said.
His certificate had one address and his Payment address for Money Gram was different, BUT they were in the same City in Florida.
The FFL is in a Persons name and not a business...
I learned from the internet that a person who changes addresses has a very SHORT window of time in which to let the ATF know so they can be in the loop haha.
So now I'm getting aggravated because I cant find the info I want on this ass clown and I thought I was gonna be swapping for a gun I wanted later on.
Then the most amazing thing happened...HE CALLED....My phone pops up a number from UTAH....Ok well I know people who live here in Louisiana with out of state numbers,
hell I did for a long time.
So I said hello and a Voice came back to me that would be right at home in a Promotion call center....OOPS...should have had an English speaking person call because your voice damn
sure doesn't match the Name on that FFL you sent me "sorry guys not profiling or being racist" but come on.
We talk a few min about payment options and I agree to send the money Via Money Gram "just cuz I'm a nice guy" and because now I'm pissed...
He gives me his address again and I told him I would try to send payment this evening and if not I would send it first thing in the morning, and he assures me that if I can get payment to
him tonight and he can verify it then when he leaves work he will drop the gun off at UPS for shipping.
I have shipped a gun or two from here in Baton Rouge through a shipping company to an FFL, but it wasn't UPS, hell UPS flat out refused me at 3 different stores when I asked about it...
So I'm pretty sure its the same in most places ???
I tell him thanks and I will let him know when I send the money.
I then proceed to call the ATF, and some how got routed to the call center in Washington D.C.
I sit on hold after pressing #1. which is to report a gun related crime, and 5 min later a lady answers the phone and I explain to her whats going on ....she tells me to call my local office in the
morning, and she cant even look up the Fake FFL....."WOW our tax payer dollars hard at work...maybe that #1 option on the phone should say "To get a fat lazy Bitch who wont take a report, or bother
to use a keyboard press #1"
So I call the local ATF and leave a message for them "lets see if they bother to call back haha"
While I'm typing this I have gotten 3 text messages from this guy asking if I have sent payment.
How can they do this stuff and NOT get caught?
Can Money Gram not be traced and if it can then how can you send it to an address electronically and then it get routed some where else and not be caught.
Anyhow just wanted to relay this story so no other BS members get caught off guard.
I'm going to keep playing him and see if I can fish an account number of some type out of him to give to the good guys...but they will probably do nothing.
I am attaching the FFL he sent me along with the addresses and phone number as well.
You cant see the last number on the FFL, its like someone didn't center the camera up well and it got chopped off...that didn't deter me when I put the numbers in that the ATF
website asked for...I just entered 0 thru 9 for the last numbers and never got a hit.
Hope I'm not doing wrong by posting the FFL and information here...If I am mods feel free to delete it.
And if anyone can verify its a Real and Active FFL let me know
The information is as follows.
Shannon Duffy
6671 Warren Road.
Milton Fl, 32583
(385)202-3374
Its different address but same name on FFL
His email is
adaminous62@gmail.com
And the name that comes through with his emails is Shannon Duffy
They got this crap down to an art.
Thanks,
LG
Mods move it if its wrong please
Well here is the latest of what Im 99.9% sure is a scam, and almost perfect Sort of.
Last night I was browsing the classifieds while in bed on the old I-Pad, and I came across a Nice Kimber Ultra Raptor II.
I didnt want one but I have a friend who has another 1911 I want and he was looking for one like this one, so I figured the price was pretty good and I would
just pick it up and make a trade to my buddy.
I don't recall which website it was but I'm sure I can find it if I look hard enough.
Anyhow the Ad. had about 4 pics and a description of the gun...It looked and sounded Legit...there was also a phone number and email attached and it said call or Text.
I thought Ok I'll text and in the morning maybe I will have a response.
Well as it turns out I got a response that said "Yes the Kimber is still avaliable"
Awesome I thought, so I text him back and said I couldnt talk right now but I could text..."I was in a meeting LOL"
So we text back and forth for a while with me asking questions about the gun and requesting a few more pics...The fellow said he would email me more pics...Cool.
I then asked about payment and shipping, and asked that he cover FFL fees on his end and I would cover them on mine.
A few minutes later I get an Email.....Awesome....I open it and find more pics of my friends soon to be new gun haha...
There is also a copy if an FFL attached, so I was like well no Fees on his end. Now I wouldn't have to haggle prices, even better.
I then got a response via text saying that he was an FFL dealer...ok well I see the paper.
So then I asked about payment method, and he said either Money Gram or i could send it to his account.
I don't know anything about money gram, so I am lost on that one but I'm pretty sure no one in their right mind would give you an account number right?
But I thought what the hell maybe its some Ebay thing now...So not knowing anything about Money Gram I asked how I could get the money to his account.
He replied by saying he would prefer Money Gram...Ok red Flag.
When I got freed up at work I sat down and got on the trusty old internet where I learned a load of info about FFL's but didn't learn anything about his.
I hit the ATF ez Check, then pulled complete lists for about the past 5 years for Florida which is what the address on his Certificate said.
His certificate had one address and his Payment address for Money Gram was different, BUT they were in the same City in Florida.
The FFL is in a Persons name and not a business...
I learned from the internet that a person who changes addresses has a very SHORT window of time in which to let the ATF know so they can be in the loop haha.
So now I'm getting aggravated because I cant find the info I want on this ass clown and I thought I was gonna be swapping for a gun I wanted later on.
Then the most amazing thing happened...HE CALLED....My phone pops up a number from UTAH....Ok well I know people who live here in Louisiana with out of state numbers,
hell I did for a long time.
So I said hello and a Voice came back to me that would be right at home in a Promotion call center....OOPS...should have had an English speaking person call because your voice damn
sure doesn't match the Name on that FFL you sent me "sorry guys not profiling or being racist" but come on.
We talk a few min about payment options and I agree to send the money Via Money Gram "just cuz I'm a nice guy" and because now I'm pissed...
He gives me his address again and I told him I would try to send payment this evening and if not I would send it first thing in the morning, and he assures me that if I can get payment to
him tonight and he can verify it then when he leaves work he will drop the gun off at UPS for shipping.
I have shipped a gun or two from here in Baton Rouge through a shipping company to an FFL, but it wasn't UPS, hell UPS flat out refused me at 3 different stores when I asked about it...
So I'm pretty sure its the same in most places ???
I tell him thanks and I will let him know when I send the money.
I then proceed to call the ATF, and some how got routed to the call center in Washington D.C.
I sit on hold after pressing #1. which is to report a gun related crime, and 5 min later a lady answers the phone and I explain to her whats going on ....she tells me to call my local office in the
morning, and she cant even look up the Fake FFL....."WOW our tax payer dollars hard at work...maybe that #1 option on the phone should say "To get a fat lazy Bitch who wont take a report, or bother
to use a keyboard press #1"
So I call the local ATF and leave a message for them "lets see if they bother to call back haha"
While I'm typing this I have gotten 3 text messages from this guy asking if I have sent payment.
How can they do this stuff and NOT get caught?
Can Money Gram not be traced and if it can then how can you send it to an address electronically and then it get routed some where else and not be caught.
Anyhow just wanted to relay this story so no other BS members get caught off guard.
I'm going to keep playing him and see if I can fish an account number of some type out of him to give to the good guys...but they will probably do nothing.
I am attaching the FFL he sent me along with the addresses and phone number as well.
You cant see the last number on the FFL, its like someone didn't center the camera up well and it got chopped off...that didn't deter me when I put the numbers in that the ATF
website asked for...I just entered 0 thru 9 for the last numbers and never got a hit.
Hope I'm not doing wrong by posting the FFL and information here...If I am mods feel free to delete it.
And if anyone can verify its a Real and Active FFL let me know
The information is as follows.
Shannon Duffy
6671 Warren Road.
Milton Fl, 32583
(385)202-3374
Its different address but same name on FFL
His email is
adaminous62@gmail.com
And the name that comes through with his emails is Shannon Duffy
They got this crap down to an art.
Thanks,
LG