can a 10/22 be converted to full auto legally

mrmccoy · Mar 4, 2009

I was looking on youtube and noticed a few full auto 10/22's. My question is what is involved as far as paper work to do something like this?

Doc Holliday · Mar 4, 2009

No can do. It would have had to have been converted to FA and registered with the BATFE - NFA prior to the mid-80's ban.

twistedridge · Mar 4, 2009

You have to have a certain license to hold and possess a fully automatic. I do not know the exact one but to change a gun from semi to auto with out the license is highly illegal and will land you with a federal gun charge if caught. It constitutes something like 25 years I beleive.

Richard in LA · Mar 4, 2009

dspd204 said:
No can do. It would have had to have been converted to FA and registered with the BATFE - NFA prior to the mid-80's ban.

Not entirely correct. You can buy a Registered John Norrel select fire trigger pack and put them into whatever host 10/22 you want. Its not cheap though, I think the last one I saw for sale was around $9K

Richard in LA · Mar 4, 2009

twistedridge said:
You have to have a certain license to hold and possess a fully automatic. I do not know the exact one but to change a gun from semi to auto with out the license is highly illegal and will land you with a federal gun charge if caught. It constitutes something like 25 years I beleive.

You dont need a license to possess full auto. You do need one to make post-86 machine guns (02/07 FFL/SOT, IIRC), but no license is required to buy a transferrable pre86, just a large chunk of expendable $$$

Doc Holliday · Mar 4, 2009

twistedridge said:
You have to have a certain license to hold and possess a fully automatic. I do not know the exact one but to change a gun from semi to auto with out the license is highly illegal and will land you with a federal gun charge if caught. It constitutes something like 25 years I beleive.

Not true:

Possessing a FA, suppressor, SBR, SBS, or AOW only requires a tax stamp per weapon/item. Also, you cannot legally convert a non-FA weapon to FA; it has to already be in the NFA Registry (unless it is an already registered trigger pack).

Doc Holliday · Mar 4, 2009

Richard in LA said:
Not entirely correct. You can buy a Registered John Norrel select fire trigger pack and put them into whatever host 10/22 you want. Its not cheap though, I think the last one I saw for sale was around $9K

True that, I forgot about that option...

JEPR82 · Mar 4, 2009

But none of this applies if you purchase the gatliing gun kit and a second 10/22 and have almost the same rate of fire legally.

mrmccoy · Mar 4, 2009

thanks richard thats what I was thinking. So it is possible to legally own one with enough $$$$$. You gota love the "you will go to jail" people.

WHEELER · Mar 4, 2009

Yes, you need a registered Norell trigger pack plus $200 NFA tax stamp.

mrmccoy · Mar 4, 2009

so manufacturing companies can't produce NFA regestered parts to make any semi auto into full auto?

spanky · Mar 4, 2009

WHEELER said:
Yes, you need a registered Norell trigger pack plus $200 NFA tax stamp.

Of course, 200 is a drop in the bucket considering the cost of the kit.

cajun 22 · Mar 4, 2009

mrmccoy said:
so manufacturing companies can't produce NFA regestered parts to make any semi auto into full auto?

Yes they can, but can only sell to LE or Govt. But no one is making anything for the 10-22.

mrmccoy · Mar 4, 2009

Ok thanks for the help guys

Richard in LA · Mar 4, 2009

spanky said:
Of course, 200 is a drop in the bucket considering the cost of the kit.

Yeah, if you want to get nit-picky, dont forget the dealer transfer fees, finger print card and passport photos are extra too

cajun 22 said:
Yes they can, but can only sell to LE or Govt. But no one is making anything for the 10-22.

Nike is still making shoestrings

(no, not legal, but some people might 'get' what I'm referring to)

Zack3g · Mar 4, 2009

if you're going to spend the 9k on a 10/22 trigger pack, just get a RR M16 and a .22LR conversion for it.

you'll thank me.

Narco · Mar 4, 2009

Zack3g said:
if you're going to spend the 9k on a 10/22 trigger pack, just get a RR M16 and a .22LR conversion for it.

you'll thank me.

This.

mrmccoy · Mar 5, 2009

I don't think I will be spending 9k on any type of firearm for a long time. I was just thinking 22lr would be cheaper to blast away then any other round. The m16 with a 22 conversion does sound better but still will not happen for a long time.

Born4spd · Mar 5, 2009

Richard in LA said:
Yeah, if you want to get nit-picky, dont forget the dealer transfer fees, finger print card and passport photos are extra too

Nike is still making shoestrings

(no, not legal, but some people might 'get' what I'm referring to)

Dont say that on the interwebs they will kill your dog.

spanky · Mar 5, 2009

Born4spd said:
Dont say that on the interwebs they will kill your dog.

He doesn't have a dog.

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