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    matto

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    Pas Tout La said:
    It seems as though Colt is a safe bet in the sub $1,000 - $1,000 range. Is that an accurate assertion? I have a kitchen table build that has continuous FTF issues that I would love to replace with something built by an actual professional.

    Also, what are your thoughts on variable powered optics for self defense? Namely the Burris MTAC 1-4? With my budget constraints, I can't justify spending $400 - $500 on a non magnified optic. I would prefer something more versatile I can use for self defense as well as plinking and punching holes in paper on the weekends.
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    Yes to the Colt. As for optics, there are some solid red dots in the $200 range. Vortex, Primary Arms, Holosun. https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_Advanced_Micro_Dot_with_Push_Buttons_p/md-ads.htm I'm not a big fan of 1-4 scopes.
     
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    Pas Tout La said:
    It seems as though Colt is a safe bet in the sub $1,000 - $1,000 range. Is that an accurate assertion? I have a kitchen table build that has continuous FTF issues that I would love to replace with something built by an actual professional.

    Also, what are your thoughts on variable powered optics for self defense? Namely the Burris MTAC 1-4? With my budget constraints, I can't justify spending $400 - $500 on a non magnified optic. I would prefer something more versatile I can use for self defense as well as plinking and punching holes in paper on the weekends.
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    I would defer to Chris or Trey at Sport Optics. I've shot the MTAC and thought it was pretty good, I also think the Vortex PST Scopes are good.
     
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    MyBabyDaddy

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    Is that supposed to be a contribution to a constructive conversation?
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    I apologize. I was just laughing at that statement.
    "Shooting at stationary targets means nothing." ..... "Here's where I tell you how fast I can put rounds on stationary targets.".

    I don't get involved in the "this is better than that" debates. I just thought that was funny.
     
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    Vanilla Gorilla

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    bigtattoo79 said:
    What sling mounts do you like?

    Thoughts on 1/3rd co-witness vs absolute co-witness?


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    I like a QD on the top rail like the Viking Tactics LUSA and I route the rear of the sling through the stock. I have no opinion on co-witnesses. Either work. In general i think minutia like which co-witness is better is what people who want to sound important on the internet talk about when they should be shooting. In the history of recent gunfights , say the last 10 years, I doubt there has been a back-up iron sight used when an optic failed.
     
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    MyBabyDaddy said:
    I apologize. I was just laughing at that statement.
    "Shooting at stationary targets means nothing." ..... "Here's where I tell you how fast I can put rounds on stationary targets.".

    I don't get involved in the "this is better than that" debates. I just thought that was funny.
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    I think you mis-comprehended what he was trying to say.
     
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    calcagno45

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    Vanilla Gorilla said:
    ....In the history of recent gunfights , say the last 10 years, I doubt there has been a back-up iron sight used when an optic failed.
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    This has been a question I've pondered for a while. How often does this happen, if it does happen? I would understand if the optic took a round through the glass or left your power on for 50,001 hours but what are the odd of that happening. Are backups really that necessary?
     
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    I think a front is necessary. Im meh on a rear. Id love to see an honest survey where respondents are asked ...are your BUIS zeroed? I bet 95% aren't.
     
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    pyreaux

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    50,000 hrs only applies to certain types of optics. Not a gun fight, but a real life example. I attended a class where an instructor borrowed another instructors rifle to use for demos that day and raised it to find that the eotech battery was dead. Don't remember if he used backups or just sighted over the top of the barrel as it didn't matter for the demo. For what it's worth my backups are sighted in.
     
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