Good place to get your fingerprints?

Ratnic · Jul 11, 2016

Where is the best places to get your fingerprints done for the new Trust laws?

I want to go ahead and get some done for me and the people in my trust.
I do not think I will beat the July 13 deadline for some of the builds I have not bought for yet.

Spleen · Jul 11, 2016

Call your local police station.
They should be able to get it done quickly and cheaply.
I believe $10-$20 is usual per set.

Ratnic · Jul 11, 2016

Dang. Now every time I add an NFA item to my trust I need to send some fingerprints in for every body.
Not to mention the hassle, and the $10-20 per set for each person.

Are they going to let me just do it once for each person? Probably not, no way can their data base be used to actually keep records for future verification.
Dang president and Liberals...

Spleen · Jul 11, 2016

Don't know the answer to that.
Perhaps some folks here will know better than I can say.
You do know, lawyers lurk on these forums...

bigtattoo79 · Jul 11, 2016

Ratnic said:
Dang. Now every time I add an NFA item to my trust I need to send some fingerprints in for every body.
Not to mention the hassle, and the $10-20 per set for each person.

Are they going to let me just do it once for each person? Probably not, no way can their data base be used to actually keep records for future verification.
Dang president and Liberals...

Im pretty sure you send in a new set of prints if adding something and it's been 2years since the last set of prints were sent in "I think".

US Infidel · Jul 11, 2016

bigtattoo79 said:
Im pretty sure you send in a new set of prints if adding something and it's been 2years since the last set of prints were sent in "I think".

Yep. Prints are good for two years as long as there are no changes in the trust.

Ratnic · Jul 11, 2016

Good to know, thanks guys...

Grandpa · Jul 14, 2016

I just exchanged text messages with Kenny Bossetta with Meplat. He is going to be set up to do that in house. I didn't ask about additional fees. I do have to admit that I am a repeat and satisfied customer and don't in any way make money or receive discounts for saying good things about him. I did read somewhere that one of the major suppressor manufacturers' was planning to set up his dealers to do fingerprinting. I'm kinda worried about the logistics since my trust co-owner is in Florida. I have 3 items at various places in the pipeline.

stephenmcrna · Jul 14, 2016

I wonder if Kenny is going to get one of those Silencer Shop Kiosk. I know they are getting ready to be sent out. You can do your fingerprints on there if you order from them.

JCcypress · Jul 14, 2016

https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/general41fquestionsandanswersupdated-6-28-16pdf/download

Each responsible person is required to complete ATF Form 5320.23 (National Firearms Act (NFA) Responsible Person Questionnaire), and submit photographs and fingerprints each time the trust or legal entity files an application to make an NFA firearm or is listed as the transferee on an application to transfer an NFA firearm. In addition, each responsible person for the trust or legal entity is required to notify the CLEO of the locality in which the responsible person is located that an application is being submitted to ATF.

The 24-month exemption for providing supporting *documentation* refers only to the documentation proving the existence of an entity, such as trusts or corporate paperwork. The Form 5320.23 with attached photograph and fingerprint cards are required for each person identified as a responsible person for each submission in order to initiate the required background check. See instruction 2 d. (4) and (5) on the Forms 1, 4, and 5.

It's the model of inefficiency- Conducting a complete, de novo background check on each individual, rather than maintaining a file and simply updating it when new applications are submitted.

US Infidel · Jul 14, 2016

JCcypress said:
https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/general41fquestionsandanswersupdated-6-28-16pdf/download

Each responsible person is required to complete ATF Form 5320.23 (National Firearms Act (NFA) Responsible Person Questionnaire), and submit photographs and fingerprints each time the trust or legal entity files an application to make an NFA firearm or is listed as the transferee on an application to transfer an NFA firearm. In addition, each responsible person for the trust or legal entity is required to notify the CLEO of the locality in which the responsible person is located that an application is being submitted to ATF.

The 24-month exemption for providing supporting *documentation* refers only to the documentation proving the existence of an entity, such as trusts or corporate paperwork. The Form 5320.23 with attached photograph and fingerprint cards are required for each person identified as a responsible person for each submission in order to initiate the required background check. See instruction 2 d. (4) and (5) on the Forms 1, 4, and 5.

It's the model of inefficiency- Conducting a complete, de novo background check on each individual, rather than maintaining a file and simply updating it when new applications are submitted.

WOW, that really sucks!! I'm confused, at what point do I need to "prove the existence of the trust"?

DAVE_M · Jul 14, 2016

US Infidel said:
WOW, that really sucks!! What a pain I the a$$

I thought you knew about that?

That's why 41F is so damn annoying.

US Infidel · Jul 14, 2016

DAVE_M said:
I thought you knew about that?

That's why 41F is so damn annoying.

I was under the impression that the prints were only need to be resubmitted once every two years, not for every application.

DAVE_M · Jul 14, 2016

US Infidel said:
I was under the impression that the prints were only need to be resubmitted once every two years, not for every application.

LOL I wish.

Gotta get errbody to go get them every time you want another fart can.

wcweir3 · Jul 14, 2016

If you live in Ascension parish the sheriff will do them free

Armbruster Armory · Jul 14, 2016

Lafayette Parish Sheriff's Department - go to the Records Department door - $10 and very quick

maxinedalbert · Aug 7, 2016

Best bet for fingerprinting is to find a place that does digital "live" scans near you, being fingerprinted means you are on track to get the job, but everything must go through a bunch of hurdles before you actually get the job. Assuming everything else goes smoothly, at this point you have the job, I suggest certifix live scan have more Places near you and trusted & time-saving.

Ratnic · Feb 1, 2017

I know this is an old thread I started back in July 2016, but I am going to ask about this again since there has been time for people to understand what is going on with this new BS for Class3 weapons.

I want to send my S&W M&P15-22 upper and barrel off to Innovative Arms to get the barrel cut and an integral suppressor attached. I have a trust with several Class3 items in it from past.
I have 3 trustees. What do I need to have the trustees do so I can get this ball rolling?

- Every Trustee needs fingerprints?
- Every Trustee needs pictures?
- Anything else I missed?

So when I have them go get the fingerprints and pictures, can I have them get multiple copies at that time to get it over with. Like 10 sets? So the future BS of the logistics can be cancelled out.
From reading about this, it looks like fingerprints & pictures have to be provided to get each stamp. If that is the case, WTF? I would think out of "every" method to identify someone, fingerprints are one of the methods that do not change over time. or do they? hmmmmmmm...

My passport lasts 10 years, Why the hell doesn't this crap last at least that long? I know the answer to that...money and control. I'm just ranting while finally understanding how F'ed up this is. Sorry...

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