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    Quote Originally Posted by Nola 32/65 View Post
    I did forget about the Ruger AR 556

    My next question is since you all seem to like a lot of these lower end ARs, what makes the $1500+ ones so much better? Reliability? Accurancy? Less weight?
    As for the ruger, correct me if I wrong but isn't it a piston design as opposed to the direct impingement? You may have feelings for or against one.

    As to your question about high end guns. I have one custom 6.5 Grendel I paid $2500 for. I often ask my self why, when bubba posts pics of his groups shot with a gun costing 1/4 what mine did. Of course bubba never shows more than a three shot group at 100 yds.

    But hey, I got all those fancy parts Lilja barrel, geissele trigger, Seekins hg, Nicole boron bcg etc etc....

    My point is, some cheap guns do shoot well. The only difference I feel between my high dollar ar's and my hunting ar's (which aren't cheap just not really high dollar) is when you pull the charging handle the high dollar stuff just feels smoother more polished. Are they worth it? I don't think I will know until I try to sell one, which may never happen.
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    Ruger has two ar's they offer the Sr556 witch is a piston gun. The Ar556 is the direct impingement gun.


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    Yeah that Nicole Boron is a real looker.

    Thanks for clarifying that for mr burrito.
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    Magdump has built many ar15s I'm waiting for his professional opinion here. Lmao
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    Lots of solid info here. Thanks you all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabiddawg View Post
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    As for the ruger, correct me if I wrong but isn't it a piston design as opposed to the direct impingement? You may have feelings for or against one.

    As to your question about high end guns. I have one custom 6.5 Grendel I paid $2500 for. I often ask my self why, when bubba posts pics of his groups shot with a gun costing 1/4 what mine did. Of course bubba never shows more than a three shot group at 100 yds.

    But hey, I got all those fancy parts Lilja barrel, geissele trigger, Seekins hg, Nicole boron bcg etc etc....

    My point is, some cheap guns do shoot well. The only difference I feel between my high dollar ar's and my hunting ar's (which aren't cheap just not really high dollar) is when you pull the charging handle the high dollar stuff just feels smoother more polished. Are they worth it? I don't think I will know until I try to sell one, which may never happen.
    Although you did sell a barrel and bolt once. Worth every penny. Now to mount some good glass and get the trigger monkey doing his part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saintsfan6 View Post
    Yes, yes, and yes/no. I do not own one of the high end ARs but will be in the market for a DDM4 V11. That's one sweet rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nola 32/65 View Post
    I did forget about the Ruger AR 556, that's another one I saw. I saw the Oracle but really don't know much about that company so I kinda skipped over it.

    So it seems like theirs a good group of lower priced ARs to choose from, that's good to know.

    My next question is since you all seem to like a lot of these lower end ARs, what makes the $1500+ ones so much better? Reliability? Accurancy? Less weight?
    My opinion is the rifle as a whole is not any better but the key parts do make a difference. A cheaper rifle will be built with a cheaper barrel, a cheaper bolt, a cheaper stock, cheaper handguard. Personally I will never buy another AR. I will build mine it's easier than it sounds and you can build a better rifle for cheaper than you could buy it. I built a 6.5 upper with a used seekens rail, used high quality barrel and bolt, and an aero receiver for $650. Yeah that's more than my entire first AR but it is also 1/2moa capable and it's a 6.5 Grendel.

    If you want an AR that will function and shoot decent buy a cheap gun. There is nothing wrong with it, but if you want a high end gun but the few tools you need and assemble your own.
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    I have owned quite a few ARs in the last 25 years. Colt, Bushmaster, CMMG, and DPMS to name a few. And I have put together quite a few over those years. I currently own a DPMS Oracle I purchased from Cabelas for $550 about a year ago, and mine does have FA and dust cover. I put a 4x scope on it and its very accurate at 100 yards. It has not skipped a beat from day one. Right now they're on sale for $500 at Cabelas. IMO, you cannot beat it for the price.

    http://www.cabelas.com/product/DPMS-...es/1143595.uts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitebread View Post
    +2

    There is just no reason to buy one without it. I have never used forward but the dust cover is a no brainer. If you shoot wrong handed like me the shell deflector is the real winner.
    Ive used the forward assist, all it does is make a bad problem worse! So from my experience all the FA does is add weight and compound any malf's if used, now the dust cover/name tag is a must!lol My first AR was a Olympic Arms, never had any problems with it

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