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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermiform View Post
    My point is that it takes the NRA absolutely zero man power to send out an action alert on this. My point is that they damn well know about this and they are suspiciously silent on it. My question is why?
    I can't answer that. If I had to guess? Maybe it's too early in the session to bring attention to this Bill!?!
    I am trying to get an answer. I know they are not ambivilent to this Bill.
    We must admit. This session is chock full of money issues that WILL affect everyone who lives in this state. And though I have no confidence these clowns will fix anything meaningful that will benefit the citizenry as a whole, I know enough about the corrupt process to believe this issue gets sidelined. So, patience is the necessity at this juncture!
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    Coming from a state where the legislative body curtails 2A rights at every chance, I totally agree with the OP. We must come together and stand on our own two feet locally. The nra is both a political juggernaut and a lightening rod. They play a very careful chess game on the national level. It might more harmful than good at this point to have the nra involved with this issue. I've seen nra email and calling initiatives used as propaganda to dismiss 2a supporter efforts as "robo-calls".
    I don't agree with everything the nra does or states but I recognize it as one of the most powerful and feared lobby groups in washington dc. With that I support them financially and with action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildBillKelso View Post
    I've seen nra email and calling initiatives used as propaganda to dismiss 2a supporter efforts as "robo-calls".
    I lived in North Carolina for 15 years, where local gun rights organizations (Grass Roots North Carolina) did more to help the second amendment than the NRA could ever have dreamed of. Which isn't to say that the NRA is bad, per se, although the NRA has (on multiple occasions) hurt pro-gun efforts. I look at the NRA this way: when our goals are aligned, then cool. And when they're not, I'll happily call out the NRA and hold their feet to the fire.

    Something we have to be careful of is to not start fracturing the pro-2A community. If we have internal squabbles among ourselves, then we need to solve them quickly and quietly. Always assume that the Bloomberg-paid mommies are reading these forums and taking notes, and that any sort of infighting among us will be perceived as a weakness to be exploited.

    I've only lived in Louisiana for weeks now, but I haven't seen a well-organized state level pro-gun organization pounding the shoe leather at the legislature. I would much rather see that type of grassroots organization than to simply rely on the NRA to do our bidding.

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    Great idea! Work and family allowing, I'd be willing to do some laps in the statehouse in BR. Legislators seem to take notice when many people show up at their office representing themselves as constituents and are not lobby group representatives. It's not hard; speaking with legislators is just a regular conversation.

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    For those who are so quick to point out who hasn't done what - I've observed the NRA and LSA putting a lot of time and resources into Louisiana.

    Not nearly so much as people who complain without spending their time at in CJ committee meetings, etc etc, but rest assured there are a lot more people doing a lot more work than you realize, and I assure you that 98% of people who rant about what the NRA isn't doing don't - and won't - understand the reality of whats going on behind the scenes.

    Pretty frustrating to donate the amount of time I do - which isn't nearly what some other have and do - and then read all the "I'm taking my toys and going home" nonsense.

    We have a new NRA state liason who I just recently met and is undoubtedly a true believer and dedicated to increasing our rights. The LSA is doing our best to work with the NRA, variour reps, and the other lobbying organizations that carry power in this state.

    The NRA isn't perfect - but are you?
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    By the way ... I note that House Bill 68 (authored by Barry Ivey, R-65) is currently sitting in the Committee on Administration of Criminal Justice. I don't see it on the calendar for this Tuesday (the schedule is here), so perhaps it's time to start emailing the committee to give them some encouragement to hear this bill?

    Here's a list of committee members (semi-colon delimited to make it easy for you to cut-and-paste):

    And here's the email I just sent:

    Chairman Mack and Committee Members:

    My name is Xxxx Xxxxx. I'm a resident of Baton Rouge and a responsible, law-abiding gun owner.

    I am writing to insist that you give House Bill 68 ("Louisiana Constitutional Carry and Restoration of Second Amendment Rights Act of 2017") a fair and timely committee hearing, and that it be advanced with the committee's blessing. This bill recognizes that the right to keep and bear arms is not a privilege to be doled out prescriptively by the government. Nor is the right to keep and bear arms one that should be subjected to burdensome fees that put a concealed handgun permit out of reach of our state's poorest citizens (who, in many cases, live at-risk in some of our state's most dangerous areas).

    At least thirteen states have now repealed the need for a concealed handgun permit, and I would very much like to see Louisiana join these ranks.

    I will monitor the actions of the committee closely, and I will look forward to learning about your support for this important legislation.

    Respectfully,

    Xxxxx Xxxxx
    You want to make a difference? Let the legislators know that you're paying attention. That's far more effective than sending the NRA another check and hoping for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangris1 View Post
    For those who are so quick to point out who hasn't done what - I've observed the NRA and LSA putting a lot of time and resources into Louisiana.

    Not nearly so much as people who complain without spending their time at in CJ committee meetings, etc etc, but rest assured there are a lot more people doing a lot more work than you realize, and I assure you that 98% of people who rant about what the NRA isn't doing don't - and won't - understand the reality of whats going on behind the scenes.

    Pretty frustrating to donate the amount of time I do - which isn't nearly what some other have and do - and then read all the "I'm taking my toys and going home" nonsense.

    The NRA isn't perfect - but are you?
    Also frustrating to donate my hard earned money to the NRA only to see them VERY conspicuously quiet on this issue.

    No worries though. I fixed the problem. I no longer have a right to bitch about their inaction because I'm no longer giving them my money. If you need me I'll be bitching about Gun Owners of America from here on out.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermiform View Post
    No worries though. I fixed the problem. I no longer have a right to bitch about their inaction because I'm no longer giving them my money. If you need me I'll be bitching about Gun Owners of America from here on out.......
    GOA is a *far* more effective group than the NRA. If GOA and Larry Pratt could get a tenth of the money that gets funneled to the NRA, the second amendment would be in a lot better shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaleighReloader View Post
    GOA is a *far* more effective group than the NRA. If GOA and Larry Pratt could get a tenth of the money that gets funneled to the NRA, the second amendment would be in a lot better shape.

    Mike
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    Just sent some emails in support of this. I hadn't read it until a few minutes ago and I have to say it has something not many laws do today. It is simple and easily understandable. It is not congested with a bunch of unneeded stuff. Really hope it goes thru

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