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    Which SA M1A for me

    I have wanted an "M14" ever since the Chief Gunner's Mate gave us a 30 minute indoc in "The Gulf" and then put one in my hand with orders, 'If you see a swimmer and you don't recognize them, shoot them" in 1989. With various firearms in the vault since then but still no "M14" I'm about to "pull the trigger" because I gots to get me one.

    I'm thinking I want a standard with walnut to maintain a since of tradition but I'm also realizing that a (parkerized) shorter barrel on a battle rifle in the woods and swamps in SELA is more practical. I'm hoping that you guys can provide some input so that I can make an informed decision. Thoughts and suggestions?

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    GO FOR IT!!!!! I my self am a "little fella" 5'5" around 130lbs, I always look for a "compact" hell I love a youth gun,lol. So if it was me I would go with the 16" or 18"... I had a fal with an 21" barrel and just got it cut down to 16.25" and I love it!!! I bought a m1a preban "bush rifle" it is to my understanding what is now the "scout" that is out now, main differences are it has a flash hider and not a brake, most of all the parts are military parts, and it doesn't have the scout rail. Its an 18", haven't really shot it much past 100 yards but it is a tack driver. I have carried it around several times in the southern swamps but never been able to kill anything with it, but it is a great option. I guess it just boils down to preference, mine came with a wood stock and it was VERY THICK, almost felt like holding a 2"x4", so I waited and waited and never found a nice military synthetic stock that I liked and just went with a spring field civilian black stock. A lot of people complain about the flex of these stocks but it hasn't been an issue with me and its very light an makes the gun very stream line and narrow now. What ever model you go with I don't think you can go wrong, good luck to you buddy
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    While never having been in the service I always wanted one since firing my dads M1 Garand. I finally found a pre-ban standard a few years ago and is my absolute favorite rifle that I have ever owned/shot, and I have had plenty of them. I wanted standard for the reason you stated--closest to its GI brother but semi. Love this rifle!!!!
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    I grabbed a SA M1A Scout 3 years ago. Love it, took 4 deer the last 2 seasons with it.
    Just started working on accuracy as I have finally determined the grouping issue isn't me. I plan to do some long range shooting with it eventually.

    Ive found that walking the pines in MS has worked very well with the shorter barrel. Its also much easier to handle than the lighter, but longer, hunting rifles I have when dealing with 4wheelers, carts, tree climbing, and entering/exiting box stands.
    Rifle has been wet, dirty, dropped (whoops) and the finish remains like new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOSS351 View Post
    While never having been in the service I always wanted one since firing my dads M1 Garand. I finally found a pre-ban standard a few years ago and is my absolute favorite rifle that I have ever owned/shot, and I have had plenty of them. I wanted standard for the reason you stated--closest to its GI brother but semi. Love this rifle!!!!
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    I killed my first deer with my grandpa's M1 Garand when I was 11. Rifle was far too heavy for me @11 and he sold it. Wanted to grab an M1a since the day I realized what I did.

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    I shoot and eat things with my M1-A.
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    Sweet!!!! When I grow up I wanna be just like you!!! Nice buck man
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    Congratulations on aiming for the M14. There is a lot of good info about the rifle on this and other boards but it all boils down to your personal preference and what you intend to do with the rifle. The standard has a 20 inch barrel but the flash hider makes it effectively longer. If you ever intend to shoot highpower you would want to stay with the standard model, but many are perfectly fine with the bush or scout rifle

    My choice was to go with standard models but I built both of mine from bare receivers with all GI parts and heavy barrels. In hindsight I should have built the second one with either a medium or light/standard barrel. I also have four stocks for the two rifles so that I can change around a little: two birch oversize, one painted and one stained/oiled, then one standard walnut and one GI fiberglass.

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    If I could afford it, I would buy a Fulton armory M1A.
    http://www.fulton-armory.com
    That said, the SA scout seems handy and the 18 inch barrel seems like the shortest length that takes advantage of most of the .308 powder load.
    http://ballisticsbytheinch.com

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    Mine is as close to as issued GI as I can get it. I love it. It shoots great. I like shooting historical weapons as well as some modern rifles with all the do-dads added. When my kids were young, I would take them to the range and let them shoot a Springfield 1903 and tell them of my grandfather's time in France in WW-1. And then shoot the Garand and talk about my dad's and his several brother's service in WW-2. I also have the German, Japanese, English WW-2 era rifles. A Russian rifle is absent from my collection. I didn't have the M1A then, but that would have triggered discussion of an uncle's service in Korea. I was not drafted and did not serve in the military, but we shot a first generation AR-15 and discussed Viet Nam. I also have an early AK-47 of Chinese manufacture. I would like to get an early Russian AK-47. Viet Nam was the war of my generation but not me personally. It still shaped a lot of who and what I am. I am a student of history and weapons are history you can touch and feel and teach. I also have some modern M4s in my historical collection as well as being modern shooters. I have recently added a Krag from the Spanish American War to my little collection. I would love to add Confederate and Union Civil War rifles. I'll probably have to settle for a reproduction at some point due to cost. My great grand-father served in the 3rd Georgia Infantry Company B and C and served under Robert E Lee. He surrendered at the Appomattox Courthouse and was in a POW camp for a while. This civil war veteran fathered my grandfather in 1903 so I'm not many generations away from the Civil War. One uncle that is a WW-2 bomber pilot and his grandson was born before this Civil War veteran died is still with us. I had breakfast with him last Saturday. My grandfather died when I was 18. I wish I would have had the wisdom then to ask many questions. When you are 18, he was just an old man, and I was a stupid kid.
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    i also love the m1a for a number of reasons. i could not decide so i purchased a loaded and a scout squad, both in walnut. very fun to shoot. i do find the loaded is a bit more accurate which is to be expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miscverb View Post
    i also love the m1a for a number of reasons. i could not decide so i purchased a loaded and a scout squad, both in walnut. very fun to shoot. i do find the loaded is a bit more accurate which is to be expected.
    I had logged on to post the same thing except that I would go with the Standard (light barrel) and upgrade the trigger later and then get a scout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miscverb View Post
    i also love the m1a for a number of reasons. i could not decide so i purchased a loaded and a scout squad, both in walnut. very fun to shoot. i do find the loaded is a bit more accurate which is to be expected.
    Which is fine depending on what you want it for.
    I bought the SAI standard, Added a USGI hammer and firing pin, Sadlak tin piston and spring guide ( You will bend SAI spring guide rod with Winchester white ammo) Sadlak scope mount, Its a fine shooter for what I do!
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    How is cheek weld, that's the one thing holding me back from scoping mine, wish I could find an "arms 18 mount" they look the lowest in profile

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    I would have to say get the loaded best bang for your buck. Better barrel and trigger than the standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigchillin83 View Post
    How is cheek weld, that's the one thing holding me back from scoping mine, wish I could find an "arms 18 mount" they look the lowest in profile
    You will need one unless you have a very long neck, Most people go with an 1 1/4 rise.
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    It, Hesitated 1 second to long.
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    So, the next questions would be about ammo.

    How many rounds must you put through this new rifle to "break it in"?
    Which ammo would you use to "break it in"?

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    You may want to cruise into M14 forum.com for a warehouse of knowledge on the system.

    I reload so I stick with 147/150 grain projectiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigchillin83 View Post
    How is cheek weld, that's the one thing holding me back from scoping mine, wish I could find an "arms 18 mount" they look the lowest in profile
    Bradley cheek rest to the rescue!!!!

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