On a lateral note...I toyed with the idea of buying a Fostech Echo II...I confirmed my order today. Gotta get while the gettin is good; and also why the hell not!?
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On a lateral note...I toyed with the idea of buying a Fostech Echo II...I confirmed my order today. Gotta get while the gettin is good; and also why the hell not!?
"Thompson said a bill under consideration in the House that would eliminate the requirement for a license before buying a gun silencer is "dangerous."
House Speaker Paul Ryan has said there are no plans to bring the bill to a House vote anytime soon."
HPA is dead now, no doubt.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/10/04/House-Democrats-pushing-gun-control-after-Las-Vegas-mass-shooting/3041507127197/?utm_source=fp&utm_campaign=ds&utm_medium=3
From a separate article on NOLA. These are the people crafting legislation/bills (Feinstein and her staff). Clearly they don't know the difference between a semi-automatic weapon or an automatic weapon, or how these specific weapons truly function.
"The devices, known as "bump stocks" among other names, are legal and originally were intended to help people with limited hand mobility fire a semi-automatic without the individual trigger pulls required. They can fit over the rear shoulder-stock assembly on an automatic rifle and with applied pressure cause the weapon to fire continuously, increasing the rate from between 45 and 60 rounds per minute to between 400 and 800 rounds per minute, according to Feinstein's office."
Bunch of overpaid dumb azzes....
http://www.nola.com/national_politics/2017/10/some_republicans_open_to_banni.html#incart_river_home
House Speaker Paul Ryan has said there are no plans to bring the bill to a House vote anytime soon."
HPA is dead now, no doubt.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/10/04/House-Democrats-pushing-gun-control-after-Las-Vegas-mass-shooting/3041507127197/?utm_source=fp&utm_campaign=ds&utm_medium=3
From a separate article on NOLA. These are the people crafting legislation/bills (Feinstein and her staff). Clearly they don't know the difference between a semi-automatic weapon or an automatic weapon, or how these specific weapons truly function.
"The devices, known as "bump stocks" among other names, are legal and originally were intended to help people with limited hand mobility fire a semi-automatic without the individual trigger pulls required. They can fit over the rear shoulder-stock assembly on an automatic rifle and with applied pressure cause the weapon to fire continuously, increasing the rate from between 45 and 60 rounds per minute to between 400 and 800 rounds per minute, according to Feinstein's office."
Bunch of overpaid dumb azzes....
http://www.nola.com/national_politics/2017/10/some_republicans_open_to_banni.html#incart_river_home
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machinedrummer
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Fostech, slide fire, stabilizing braces, and tannerite will all go bye bye very soon. Just a prediction. Both side will support it because it saves lives. Let's face it, these are people we the people voted into office.
JoeLiberty
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Would it be that great of a loss to the gun culture?
Tack it onto the HPA or the SHARE act and I'd sign the heck outta that deal.
Tack it onto the HPA or the SHARE act and I'd sign the heck outta that deal.
They always focus on the tools the maniac used instead of the maniac. Screw the kneejerk opportunists. Write your reps and let them know you are watching and won't tolerate collaboration with the banners.
BTW- Now they know that Paddock had booked a room overlooking the Lalapalooza (sp) festival in Chicago, earlier....This guy was a time bomb hidden in plain sight. I guess he just chose to carry out his evil in Las Vegas, instead.
BTW- Now they know that Paddock had booked a room overlooking the Lalapalooza (sp) festival in Chicago, earlier....This guy was a time bomb hidden in plain sight. I guess he just chose to carry out his evil in Las Vegas, instead.
I'd be ok with bump fire going bye bye. Thousands of rounds and hours down range, countless classes and I have yet to see one. I've seen them on YouTube being fired by stereotypical southerners chumping about having a "full auto AR". They sound much like the reporters on CNN and MSNBC.
I understand they are legal, but I also understand its a clear gray area.
I understand they are legal, but I also understand its a clear gray area.
They are all hidden time bombs until they go boom.
Sooooo, I'm curious, if they ban bump stocks are they going to ban belt loops, too? Because that was the original bump shooting, from the hip, with a finger in your belt loop. and I've seen some vids of guys who are very proficient, and relatively accurate, firing that way.
Gator 45/70
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One NEVER ever gives the left one single inch! Their goal is to slowly chip away at your gun rights since they can't do away with the second amendment.
Not one single stinking inch!
Not one single stinking inch!
snoopygw73
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This is why I hate republicans and in this one case, the NRA. Both had an outstanding bargaining chip. The could have offered an olive branch in the form of a compromise to the Dems. Attach bump fire stocks to the hearing protection act. Remove suppressors from the NFA registry and add bumpfire stocks to it. BOOM!!!!! Everyone wins and everyone is happy. BUT, NO!!!!!! Of course not. The NRA just flushed it's bargaining chip down the damn toilet. THE NRA JUST CALLED FOR A FULL LEGAL REVIEW OF BUMPFIRE STOCKS. Stupid morons don't know how to politic!
machinedrummer
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The NRA just rolled over. Both sides of the isle don't care about us. It's all about votes and power. We no longer have a choice, they are all one in the same. If they can crumble the second all the rest will follow.
This is exactly what I thought when I heard the NRA folded. Once again, we the people are screwed by those who are supposed to be our voice.
Adding bump fire to the NFA rules is a good idea. I hadn't thought of that.
Did the NRA come out with an opinion on bump fire? All I read was that they are requesting a review. Politically that's a good move, getting out in front with action rather than rhetoric.
Its harder for your opposition, say the Dems, to compete if you are already taking action. Lets be honest, 99% of Dem action is always talk not action.
Did the NRA come out with an opinion on bump fire? All I read was that they are requesting a review. Politically that's a good move, getting out in front with action rather than rhetoric.
Its harder for your opposition, say the Dems, to compete if you are already taking action. Lets be honest, 99% of Dem action is always talk not action.
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tallwalker
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This. Today it is bump fire stocks because it is the "thing" used to kill people. Next time (and there will always be a next time) it will be high cap magazines as the "thing". Chips have been flying for way too long as it is.
No, no, no.
It is NOT a grey area. It still requires one pull of the trigger for each round sent down range.
Who is going to confiscate my personal property, that I legally obtained? Who is going to reimburse me ? Aren't there any Constitutional issues that you can see involved in this?
I feel like I've been thrown under a bus.
I'm going to have to reconsider my committee membership.
TheBigRServices
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I'm thinking letting the NRA know how it's members feel about bump fire stocks and silencers would be a good idea instead of just waiting to see what they think it's members feel about it. Personally I wouldn't have a problem with bump fire stocks being added to the nfa if it means silencers gets removed. But I also understand the idea of "if they take away that, what's next?"
I guess I'll type an email to the nra to tell them how I feel... maybe after I make sure my membership is up to date. Lol
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Gator 45/70
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First they came for the slide fire stocks and i did not speak out-
because i was not a slide fire stock
then they came for the large capacity magazines and i did not speak out-
because i was not a large capacity magazine.
Then they came for the black rifles and i did not speak out-
because i was not a black rifle
then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
because i was not a slide fire stock
then they came for the large capacity magazines and i did not speak out-
because i was not a large capacity magazine.
Then they came for the black rifles and i did not speak out-
because i was not a black rifle
then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
"The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
Idiots.That is so far from truth.A rubber band will do the same thing.a modified stock will
do the same thing,belt loop,,wire,,etc... Cant ban rubber bands,can they?
First off,a real FA runs around 8-900 rds a minute continuously.A slidefire stock,and yes
I have used one many times,shoots an average of around 3-500rds max and that's if
your really good at pushing forward.Lots of practice.
NRA has no motive in this era other than to make you join to pay money to be in a group
so you can say.Im an NRA member,im just as dumb as they are.Reminds me of the group
wounded warriors,what a crock! They use maybe,maybe 1% of all funds that come in.
Americans need to make up their own group,start it by gunsmiths,people that actually
use and work on firearms.Not political idiots such as the NRA.I never joined because I
actually did my homework on them years ago.They very ,very seldom win any cases for
the regular members.You never get invites to anything.There is no reason they should
not be abolished.
Idiots.That is so far from truth.A rubber band will do the same thing.a modified stock will
do the same thing,belt loop,,wire,,etc... Cant ban rubber bands,can they?
First off,a real FA runs around 8-900 rds a minute continuously.A slidefire stock,and yes
I have used one many times,shoots an average of around 3-500rds max and that's if
your really good at pushing forward.Lots of practice.
NRA has no motive in this era other than to make you join to pay money to be in a group
so you can say.Im an NRA member,im just as dumb as they are.Reminds me of the group
wounded warriors,what a crock! They use maybe,maybe 1% of all funds that come in.
Americans need to make up their own group,start it by gunsmiths,people that actually
use and work on firearms.Not political idiots such as the NRA.I never joined because I
actually did my homework on them years ago.They very ,very seldom win any cases for
the regular members.You never get invites to anything.There is no reason they should
not be abolished.
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