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  • DBMJR1

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    The NRA has announced that they are open to legislation banning devices that simulate full auto rates of fire.

    I'm feeling betrayed.
     

    DaSouthernYankee

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    Actually I believe they said they want the ATF to run another legal check on the slidefire stock. not the same thing. Probably to prove that the laws are not the problem., it’s people.


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    nolaradio

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    https://home.nra.org/joint-statement/


    In case you're too lazy to click the link:

    (FAIRFAX, VA) - The National Rifle Association today issued the following statement:

    "In the aftermath of the evil and senseless attack in Las Vegas, the American people are looking for answers as to how future tragedies can be prevented. Unfortunately, the first response from some politicians has been to call for more gun control. Banning guns from law-abiding Americans based on the criminal act of a madman will do nothing to prevent future attacks. This is a fact that has been proven time and again in countries across the world. In Las Vegas, reports indicate that certain devices were used to modify the firearms involved. Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations. In an increasingly dangerous world, the NRA remains focused on our mission: strengthening Americans' Second Amendment freedom to defend themselves, their families and their communities. To that end, on behalf of our five million members across the country, we urge Congress to pass National Right-to-Carry reciprocity, which will allow law-abiding Americans to defend themselves and their families from acts of violence."
     

    DaSouthernYankee

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    https://home.nra.org/joint-statement/


    In case you're too lazy to click the link:

    (FAIRFAX, VA) - The National Rifle Association today issued the following statement:

    "In the aftermath of the evil and senseless attack in Las Vegas, the American people are looking for answers as to how future tragedies can be prevented. Unfortunately, the first response from some politicians has been to call for more gun control. Banning guns from law-abiding Americans based on the criminal act of a madman will do nothing to prevent future attacks. This is a fact that has been proven time and again in countries across the world. In Las Vegas, reports indicate that certain devices were used to modify the firearms involved. Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations. In an increasingly dangerous world, the NRA remains focused on our mission: strengthening Americans' Second Amendment freedom to defend themselves, their families and their communities. To that end, on behalf of our five million members across the country, we urge Congress to pass National Right-to-Carry reciprocity, which will allow law-abiding Americans to defend themselves and their families from acts of violence."

    I stand corrected. In that case screw them. GOA all day. Why do I keep assuming the NRA will do their job when they REALLY need to? Makes me think they are going to endorse some “middle-ground” bill and screw us.


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    NOShooter

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    I stand corrected. In that case screw them. GOA all day. Why do I keep assuming the NRA will do their job when they REALLY need to? Makes me think they are going to endorse some *middle-ground* bill and screw us.


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    i'll tell ya what... I'll trade ridiculous slide fire, bump fire, fire on release crapola for silencers coming off of the NFA.

    All day every day.

    If you want to shoot full auto so badly, save your couch pennies and buy a legit select fire weapon.
     

    pangris1

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    So - after standing firm for Sandy Hook - people are immediately ready to throw the NRA off a cliff because they aren't standing behind simulated full auto?

    Unbelievable. Well, I wish it was. Not surprising at all actually.

    Is the NRA perfect? No. Who is? What is?

    What is the BEST CASE scenario is Slide Fire gets banned?

    Are you of the belief that when a sports team plays - if the other team gets a first down, you throw your hands up because your team can't do a ******* thing right? Forget them forever?
     
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    DBMJR1

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    So - after standing firm for Sandy Hook - people are immediately ready to throw the NRA off a cliff because they aren't standing behind simulated full auto?

    Unbelievable. Well, I wish it was. Not surprising at all actually.

    Is the NRA perfect? No. Who is? What is?

    What is the BEST CASE scenario is Slide Fire gets banned?

    Are you of the belief that when a sports team plays - if the other team gets a first down, you throw your hands up because your team can't do a ******* thing right? Forget them forever?

    You are correct, that the NRA is the best organization to defend our rights, but if they've caved on this what is next? 100 round Surefire's? Then 60 round Surefires, Then P-Mags? Let's just all move to New York.
     

    DBMJR1

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    While I'm at it, . . .

    Aren't Sig Braces just an end around for the NFA SBR law? How are y'all going to feel when the NRA determines that a pistol equipped with a brace should be regulated under the NFA? Are you going to march down to the FBI office to turn in your legally obtained property, or are you going to become a criminal overnight?

    If Surefire Mags are banned, are you going to turn in yours, or become a criminal?

    So that's my choice I guess. Turn in my Slidefire stock, or become a criminal. What do y'all think I'm going to do?:mad:
     

    LACamper

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    The NRA would much rather loose the sidefires in an ATF ruling than have a general gun debate and have new gun laws in Congress. This way we only loose slide fires. An emotional Congress with elections coming up after a disaster is unpredictable, and the NRA will have to spend a lot of money to influence it.
     

    DaSouthernYankee

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    I could deal with them losing something if we get something back. But we never get anything back. Save for the 1994 AWB sunsetting in 2004 it’s been nothing but incremental losses. Half the time I think the NRA is a “false opposition” group. Granted I get that it’s all an uphill fight but when the best you can do is hold ground sometimes, something needs to change.


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    Just another thing to consider with respect to the NRA calling for an ATF review. The vast vast majority of what the newly minted "gun experts", by that I mean the reports who say that the killer had to "modify his gun to make it shot .308", on TV and in newsprint say is flat out wrong. One thing that they, and those calling for and trying to politicize this very early after the fact say is true. We as American's have a pretty short attention span as well we forget fairly quickly. Maybe by calling for the ATF to review the legality of the stock, that gives people and Congress a chance to calm down from the emotions of the tragedy and start thinking logically again. It also gives us time to be able to contact our representatives and let them know where we stand on the issues.

    As to them saying the NRA thinks they need to be regulated. Well, as someone who has never used one, doesn't want to own one and sees no real use for them other than to waste money on ammo, the NRA and all of these politicians can get over themselves. Are we really getting to a point in our country where every time something bad happens and the person uses something that has never been used before we should just ban it?
     

    thperez1972

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    To the people who are saying the NRA is wrong, do you feel automatic rifles should be legal?

    Note: It's a simple question that does not indicate my opinion on the subject. Any opinion you see in my question is your opinion, not mine.
     

    bigtattoo79

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    To the people who are saying the NRA is wrong, do you feel automatic rifles should be legal?

    Note: It's a simple question that does not indicate my opinion on the subject. Any opinion you see in my question is your opinion, not mine.

    Yes I feel FA should be legal.
     

    cajun_64

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    Are we really getting to a point in our country where every time something bad happens and the person uses something that has never been used before we should just ban it?

    YES
    Politicians wwith agendas that defy logic, will use the power of people's emotions to ram their agenda through. This describes more than half of our politicians, btw.
     

    mpl006

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    YES
    Politicians wwith agendas that defy logic, will use the power of people's emotions to ram their agenda through. This describes more than half of our politicians, btw.

    I totally agree. Probably should have added that it was rhetorical and a very scary place to be.

    I heard Rush the other day and he was talking about the left wanting more gun control up to taking guns away from us completely. The irony, as he put it, was that the same people that are shouting the Trump is basically Hitler and he will be the next Mussolini and how we shouldn't stand for that are the same ones that are screaming to take away our only way to truly defend against Trump being Hitler or Mussolini.
     

    thperez1972

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    I totally agree. Probably should have added that it was rhetorical and a very scary place to be.

    I heard Rush the other day and he was talking about the left wanting more gun control up to taking guns away from us completely. The irony, as he put it, was that the same people that are shouting the Trump is basically Hitler and he will be the next Mussolini and how we shouldn't stand for that are the same ones that are screaming to take away our only way to truly defend against Trump being Hitler or Mussolini.

    In the same way, the "anti-Nazi" group Antifa uses Nazi tactics to achieve their goal. You never hear the Nazi groups talk about national socialism. They aren't really Nazis. They just want to use the name. Antifa uses violence to stifle any message the Nazi groups want to give. That's one of the methods the real Nazis used to help their rise to power back in the day.
     

    Barry J

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    So, anything anybody dreams up and invents should be legal? I know very little about bump fire stocks, but I see no use for them, except to fire more bullets in a shorter amount of time.
     

    DaSouthernYankee

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    To the people who are saying the NRA is wrong, do you feel automatic rifles should be legal?

    Note: It's a simple question that does not indicate my opinion on the subject. Any opinion you see in my question is your opinion, not mine.

    “Shall not be infringed” is about as clear as it gets here. ALL firearm laws and regs by the fed are illegal, as well as most by individual states I’m sure (as dictated by the state constitution). The ONLY way for legitimate gun laws is a constitutional amendment to modify or eliminate the 2A. Meaning any weapon of any kind is 100% protected constitutionally, cannons and artillery etc. are included. So automatic weapons technically ARE allowed, but the fed has its head so far up its bum it thinks it can tell us no and jail is if we tell them they are wrong and ignore them.

    Ok end rant. Also this was not intended to be a hostile post towards you, sir so I apologize in advance if it comes off as such. My frustration over our ignorant and/or nefarious leadership is nagging at me again.


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