Denied Louisiana concealed carry license

charlie12 · Oct 28, 2017

Pops 1 said:
If you were taken to a Police station there is a record. Charges drop does not do away with it.

Pops 1 You said it.

From LSP FAQ

Q. I was arrested but the charges were dropped, do I still need an arrest disposition?

A. Yes, all arrest or summons must be listed on your application. Furthermore, you must provide a certified true copy of the court minutes, which reflects the final disposition of the charge and submit it with your application.

(LAC 55:I:1307.7 & 8)

nolaboy · Oct 28, 2017

babrod said:
I just got denied my concealed carry license. Insulted and upset is an understatement right now. Can someone tell me the most common reasons why one might be denied? I have a twic card and that's like FBI approved. I got in a fist fight years ago and guy pressed assault charges on me but later dropped them. I just don't know.

You have to follow all the instructions. If you're asked to submit documentation and failed to do so I think it is stated that the application will result in a denial.

A TWIC card is irrelevant. Sure the FBI runs a check for TWIC but it is not the same. Crimes passed a certain time frame are "waived" so to speak... Even felonies.

Louisiana is a shall issue state, so as long as you meet the requirements you're permit will be issued. If you don't submit all your information, which is a requirement or an aid in determining if you meet the requirements you will be denied.

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Deerslayer440 · Oct 28, 2017

SO let me get this straight.

The LSP can find something that you didn't list on the paper.
So how did they find it.I'm assuming by looking.SO when they
found this file,they had it up on a screen,but yet they cant
go one step further and read down the page that you were not
guilty.

Does the file,when brought up on a screen not show what the
outcome was?

I'm just curious.It sounds like you guys know how it works.

thperez1972 · Oct 28, 2017

Deerslayer440 said:
SO let me get this straight.

The LSP can find something that you didn't list on the paper.
So how did they find it.I'm assuming by looking.SO when they
found this file,they had it up on a screen,but yet they cant
go one step further and read down the page that you were not
guilty.

Does the file,when brought up on a screen not show what the
outcome was?

I'm just curious.It sounds like you guys know how it works.

You bring up a good point. If he forgot/left off something that wouldn’t disqualify him, why can’t LSP treat it as a non-disqualifying incident when they find it? For starters, they probably don’t see the file. They likely see an entry on a rap sheet. The entry has the date, the arresting agency, and the charges. The entry may or may not have the disposition. So if a felony arrest led to a misdemeanor plea, LSP may not know about it unless they contact the clerk of court in whatever jurisdiction the arrest occurred.

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Deerslayer440 · Oct 28, 2017

Ok,,SO you pay $125-$250 fee to lsp to start your permit process.
What does that money account for,just giving them money to
print a 3inch by 3 1/2 inch card?

No investigating,no did or didn't they,no,let me look at his or
her record.

Hmm,sounds to me like LSP doesn't care weather you loose
$250 of your hard earned money or not.

Nice accountability,makes me want to run to LSp to give
them some more money for not doing anything...

I'm thinking its time to join the other 8 states that do not
require a ccw to conceal carry.

nolaboy · Oct 28, 2017

thperez1972 said:
You bring up a good point. If he forgot/left off something that wouldn’t disqualify him, why can’t LSP treat it as a non-disqualifying incident when they find it? For starters, they probably don’t see the file. They likely see an entry on a rap sheet. The entry has the date, the arresting agency, and the charges. The entry may or may not have the disposition. So if a felony arrest led to a misdemeanor plea, LSP may not know about it unless they contact the clerk of court in whatever jurisdiction the arrest occurred.

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This is true. Sometimes the LSP only has a record of the arrest,and no other data. This I assume is why they require you submit a name search/dispositions from every municipality where an arrest occurs. In this situation OP wasn't not throwing away money...he did not follow the instructions.

Its not hard. Again Louisiana is shall issue and as long as you qualify you get the permit. I have a criminal background (see BS thread act 212), but I still meet the requirements. I followed the instructions and got my permit in 30ish days(see BS thread on CCW issue time).

Op just needs to follow instructions.

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thperez1972 · Oct 28, 2017

Deerslayer440 said:
No investigating,no did or didn't they,no,let me look at hisHmm,sounds to me like LSP doesn't care weather you loose
$250 of your hard earned money or not.

Please don't base your opinions of their actions on my reply. I can't tell you what they do or don't do. I'm simply telling you what information is in the rap sheet. As far as LSP not caring about your hard earned money, why should they care if the applicant doesn't care enough to accurately fill out the application. If the applicant is comfortable with risking his money by taking a chance and not asking for clarification, how is that the fault of LSP.

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dantheman · Oct 28, 2017

thperez1972 said:
As far as LSP not caring about your hard earned money, why should they care if the applicant doesn't care enough to accurately fill out the application. If the applicant is comfortable with risking his money by taking a chance and not asking for clarification, how is that the fault of LSP.

That says it all .

Daniel84 · Oct 28, 2017

babrod said:
I just got denied my concealed carry license. Insulted and upset is an understatement right now. Can someone tell me the most common reasons why one might be denied? I have a twic card and that's like FBI approved. I got in a fist fight years ago and guy pressed assault charges on me but later dropped them. I just don't know.

Twic card might be one issue ur having

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nolaboy · Oct 29, 2017

Daniel84 said:
Twic card might be one issue ur having

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Seriously doubt it. Twic forgives crimes after 8 years without any subsequent arrests.

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charlie12 · Oct 29, 2017

Deerslayer440 said:
Ok,,SO you pay $125-$250 fee to lsp to start your permit process.
What does that money account for,just giving them money to
print a 3inch by 3 1/2 inch card?

No investigating,no did or didn't they,no,let me look at his or
her record.

Hmm,sounds to me like LSP doesn't care weather you loose
$250 of your hard earned money or not.

Nice accountability,makes me want to run to LSp to give
them some more money for not doing anything...

I'm thinking its time to join the other 8 states that do not
require a ccw to conceal carry.

Why are you paying $250.00?

charlie12 · Oct 29, 2017

AFFIDAVIT of FACT
STATE OF LOUISIANA PARISH OF ________________________
Affiant’s Name (Printed)
Affiant’s Address (Printed)
I, _________________________, having been duly sworn, depose and say that I have read the foregoing
application, and the contents thereof, and do hereby certify that my responses and information contained within this
application are true and correct and they are an accurate account of the requested information. In addition, I have
also read, understand, and agree to comply with the statutes contained in R.S. 40:1379.3 and 1382, and the
corresponding administrative regulations contained in LAC 55:I:1301 et seq. I have executed this statement
voluntarily with the knowledge that any failure to provide truthful information is cause for denial of my application
or revocation of a permit, and that the making of any false statement or response in this application is a violation of
R.S. 14:133, Filing False Public Records, a criminal offense punishable by imprisonment for not more than five (5)
years with or without hard labor or a fine not to exceed five thousand dollars, or both.

____________________________________
Affiant’s Signature
SWORN TO AND SUBSCRIBED BEFORE ME ON THIS ___________ DAY OF _____________, _________
______________________________________ ___________________________________
Print, Type, or Stamp Name of Notary Public Notary Public
MY COMMISSION EXPIRES _______

dantheman · Oct 29, 2017

Daniel84 said:
Twic card might be one issue ur having

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I got my TWIC a couple of years before my CHP . In fact , my CHP was issued in record time . That ain't his problem .

swampfoxx · Oct 29, 2017

I posted this in the other thread:

Prior to applying for my CHL, I went to LSP and paid for a background check ($15 I think). It turned up a misdemeanor from 1971 on my record that had been Article 894'd. I then went to the courthouse and paid for the adjudication documents (about $10) and included them with my application. No problem. I had forgotten all about it, so the extra $25 paid off for me.

charlie12 · Oct 29, 2017

swampfoxx said:
I posted this in the other thread:

Prior to applying for my CHL, I went to LSP and paid for a background check ($15 I think). It turned up a misdemeanor from 1971 on my record that had been Article 894'd. I then went to the courthouse and paid for the adjudication documents (about $10) and included them with my application. No problem. I had forgotten all about it, so the extra $25 paid off for me.

Good job. Smart man

Deerslayer440 · Oct 29, 2017

The $250 is for a lifetime permit.

And as far as remembering every time he or she was arrested
maybe a lot to remember.

I have forgotten a few things from when I was 18-27.

I'm just saying,crap happens,you forget.If a person has to pay
that much for something you would think they could look up a
few records that would take a whole 10 minutes out of their
day..

But I see,they want you to do alll the work and pay your hard
earned money so they can have an easy day and not have to
get off their fat a$$ and do nothing.Don't sound fair to me,but
whatever.

I use to do a little pi work.I guess I should have had the payee
to get me all the information I needed and I could have just
sat around and played solitaire on my computer

thperez1972 · Oct 29, 2017

Deerslayer440 said:
The $250 is for a lifetime permit.

And as far as remembering every time he or she was arrested
maybe a lot to remember.

I have forgotten a few things from when I was 18-27.

I'm just saying,crap happens,you forget.If a person has to pay
that much for something you would think they could look up a
few records that would take a whole 10 minutes out of their
day..

But I see,they want you to do alll the work and pay your hard
earned money so they can have an easy day and not have to
get off their fat a$$ and do nothing.Don't sound fair to me,but
whatever.

I use to do a little pi work.I guess I should have had the payee
to get me all the information I needed and I could have just
sat around and played solitaire on my computer

Yes, they expect you to do all the work to accurately complete your application.

charlie12 · Oct 29, 2017

Deerslayer440 said:
The $250 is for a lifetime permit.

And as far as remembering every time he or she was arrested
maybe a lot to remember.

I have forgotten a few things from when I was 18-27.

I'm just saying,crap happens,you forget.If a person has to pay
that much for something you would think they could look up a
few records that would take a whole 10 minutes out of their
day..

But I see,they want you to do alll the work and pay your hard
earned money so they can have an easy day and not have to
get off their fat a$$ and do nothing.Don't sound fair to me,but
whatever.

I use to do a little pi work.I guess I should have had the payee
to get me all the information I needed and I could have just
sat around and played solitaire on my computer

So you want the fat ass workers at LSP to do YOUR work that YOU signed the paper saying it was all true. So while they are doing YOUR work that YOU should have done the person that followed the law and gave the required info is waiting for there CHP to be finished.

And if a person can't remember how may times they have been arrested. Well I'll just leave like that.

JBP55 · Oct 29, 2017

Deerslayer440 said:
The $250 is for a lifetime permit.

And as far as remembering every time he or she was arrested
maybe a lot to remember.

I have forgotten a few things from when I was 18-27.

I'm just saying,crap happens,you forget.If a person has to pay
that much for something you would think they could look up a
few records that would take a whole 10 minutes out of their
day..

But I see,they want you to do alll the work and pay your hard
earned money so they can have an easy day and not have to
get off their fat a$$ and do nothing.Don't sound fair to me,but
whatever.

I use to do a little pi work.I guess I should have had the payee
to get me all the information I needed and I could have just
sat around and played solitaire on my computer

NO!

nolaboy · Oct 29, 2017

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