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  • alpinehyperlite

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    LEO cannot by law own, carry possess etc..... a switchblade. Definition of a switchblade is in RED The specification of LEO NOT being able to carry is in ORANGE and the definition of a rescue knife is in BLUE

    §95. Illegal carrying of weapons
    A. Illegal carrying of weapons is:
    (1) The intentional concealment of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, on one's person; or
    (2) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used as a dangerous weapon, at any time by an enemy alien; or
    (3) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any tools, or dynamite, or nitroglycerine, or explosives, or other instrumentality customarily used by thieves or burglars at any time by any person with the intent to commit a crime; or
    (4)(a) The manufacture, ownership, possession, custody or use of any switchblade knife, spring knife or other knife or similar instrument having a blade which may be automatically unfolded or extended from a handle by the manipulation of a button, switch, latch or similar contrivance located on the handle.
    (b) The provisions of this Paragraph shall not apply to the following:
    (i) Any knife that may be opened with one hand by manual pressure applied to the blade or any projection of the blade.
    (ii) Any knife that may be opened by means of inertia produced by the hand, wrist, or other movement, provided the knife has either a detent or other structure that provides resistance that shall be overcome in opening or initiating the opening movement of the blade or a bias or spring load toward the closed position.

    (5)(a) The intentional possession or use by any person of a dangerous weapon on a school campus during regular school hours or on a school bus. "School" means any elementary, secondary, high school, or vo-tech school in this state and "campus" means all facilities and property within the boundary of the school property. "School bus" means any motor bus being used to transport children to and from school or in connection with school activities.
    (b) The provisions of this Paragraph shall not apply to:
    (i) A peace officer as defined by R.S. 14:30(B) in the performance of his official duties.
    (ii) A school official or employee acting during the normal course of his employment or a student acting under the direction of such school official or employee.
    (iii) Any person having the written permission of the principal or school board and engaged in competition or in marksmanship or safety instruction.
    B.(1) Whoever commits the crime of illegal carrying of weapons shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.
    (2) Whoever commits the crime of illegal carrying of weapons with any firearm used in the commission of a crime of violence as defined in R.S. 14:2(B), shall be fined not more than two thousand dollars, or imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not less than one year nor more than two years, or both. Any sentence issued pursuant to the provisions of this Paragraph and any sentence issued pursuant to a violation of a crime of violence as defined in R.S. 14:2(B) shall be served consecutively.
    C. On a second conviction, the offender shall be imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than five years.
    D. On third and subsequent convictions, the offender shall be imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than ten years without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.
    E. If the offender uses, possesses, or has under his immediate control any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, while committing or attempting to commit a crime of violence or while unlawfully in the possession of a controlled dangerous substance except the possession of fourteen grams or less of marijuana, or during the unlawful sale or distribution of a controlled dangerous substance, the offender shall be fined not more than ten thousand dollars and imprisoned at hard labor for not less than five nor more than ten years without the benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence. Upon a second or subsequent conviction, the offender shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than twenty years nor more than thirty years without the benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence.
    F.(1) For purposes of determining whether a defendant has a prior conviction for a violation of this Section, a conviction pursuant to this Section or a conviction pursuant to an ordinance of a local governmental subdivision of this state which contains the elements provided for in Subsection A of this Section shall constitute a prior conviction.
    (2) The enhanced penalty upon second, third, and subsequent convictions shall not be applicable in cases where more than five years have elapsed since the expiration of the maximum sentence, or sentences, of the previous conviction or convictions, and the time of the commission of the last offense for which he has been convicted; the sentence to be imposed in such event shall be the same as may be imposed upon a first conviction.
    (3) Any ordinance that prohibits the unlawful carrying of firearms enacted by a municipality, town, or similar political subdivision or governing authority of this state shall be subject to the provisions of R.S. 40:1796.
    G.(1) The provisions of this Section except Paragraph (4) of Subsection A shall not apply to sheriffs and their deputies, state and city police, constables and town marshals, or persons vested with police power when in the actual discharge of official duties. These provisions shall not apply to sheriffs and their deputies and state and city police who are not actually discharging their official duties, provided that such persons are full time, active, and certified by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and have on their persons valid identification as duly commissioned law enforcement officers.
    (2) The provisions of this Section except Paragraph (4) of Subsection A shall not apply to any law enforcement officer who is retired from full-time active law enforcement service with at least twelve years service upon retirement, nor shall it apply to any enforcement officer of the office of state parks, in the Department of Culture, Recreation and Tourism who is retired from active duty as an enforcement officer, provided that such retired officers have on their persons valid identification as retired law enforcement officers, which identification shall be provided by the entity which employed the officer prior to his or her public retirement. The retired law enforcement officer must be qualified annually in the use of firearms by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and have proof of such qualification. This exception shall not apply to such officers who are medically retired based upon any mental impairment.
    (3)(a) The provisions of this Section except Paragraph (4) of Subsection A shall not apply to active or retired reserve or auxiliary law enforcement officers qualified annually by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and who have on their person valid identification as active or retired reserve law or auxiliary municipal police officers. The active or retired reserve or auxiliary municipal police officer shall be qualified annually in the use of firearms by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and have proof of such certification.
    (b) For the purposes of this Paragraph, a reserve or auxiliary municipal police officer shall be defined as a volunteer, non-regular, sworn member of a law enforcement agency who serves with or without compensation and has regular police powers while functioning as such agency's representative, and who participates on a regular basis in agency activities including, but not limited to those pertaining to crime prevention or control, and the preservation of the peace and enforcement of the law.
    H.(1) Except as provided in Paragraph (A)(5) of this Section and in Paragraph (2) of this Subsection, the provisions of this Section shall not prohibit active justices or judges of the supreme court, courts of appeal, district courts, parish courts, juvenile courts, family courts, city courts, federal courts domiciled in the state of Louisiana, and traffic courts, members of either house of the legislature, officers of either house of the legislature, the legislative auditor, designated investigative auditors, constables, coroners, designated coroner investigators, district attorneys and designated assistant district attorneys, United States attorneys and assistant United States attorneys and investigators, the attorney general, designated assistant attorneys general, and justices of the peace from possessing and concealing a handgun on their person when such persons are qualified annually in the use of firearms by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training.
    (2) Nothing in this Subsection shall permit the carrying of a weapon in the state capitol building.
    I. The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit the carrying of a concealed handgun by a person who is a college or university police officer under the provisions of R.S. 17:1805 and who is carrying a concealed handgun in accordance with the provisions of that statute.
    J. The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit the ownership of rescue knives by commissioned full-time law enforcement officers. The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit the carrying of rescue knives by commissioned full-time law enforcement officers who are in the actual discharge of their official duties. The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit the sale of rescue knives to commissioned full-time law enforcement officers. The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit the ownership or possession of rescue knives by merchants who own or possess the knives solely as inventory to be offered for sale to commissioned full-time law enforcement officers. As used in this Subsection, a "rescue knife" is a folding knife, which can be readily and easily opened with one hand and which has at least one blade which is designed to be used to free individuals who are trapped by automobile seat belts, or at least one blade which is designed for a similar purpose. No blade of a rescue knife shall exceed five inches in length.
    K.(1) The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit a retired justice or judge of the supreme court, courts of appeal, district courts, parish courts, juvenile courts, family courts, city courts, retired attorney general, retired assistant attorneys general, retired district attorneys, and retired assistant district attorneys, from possessing and concealing a handgun on their person provided that such retired person is qualified annually in the use of firearms by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and has on their person valid identification showing proof of their status as a retired justice, judge, attorney general, assistant attorney general, district attorney, or assistant district attorney.
    (2) The retired justice, judge, attorney general, assistant attorney general, district attorney, or assistant district attorney shall be qualified annually in the use of firearms by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and have proof of qualification. However, this Subsection shall not apply to a retired justice, judge, attorney general, assistant attorney general, district attorney, or assistant district attorney who is medically retired based upon any mental impairment, or who has entered a plea of guilty or nolo contendere to or been found guilty of a felony offense. For the purposes of this Subsection, "retired district attorney" or "retired assistant district attorney" shall mean a district attorney or an assistant district attorney receiving retirement benefits from the District Attorneys' Retirement System.
    Amended by Acts 1956, No. 345, §1; Acts 1958, No. 21, §1; Acts 1958, No. 379, §§1, 3; Acts 1968, No. 647, §1; Acts 1975, No. 492, §1; Acts 1986, No. 38, §1; Acts 1992, No. 1017, §1; Acts 1993, No. 636, §1; Acts 1993, No. 844, §1; Acts 1994, 3rd Ex. Sess., No. 143, §1; Acts 1995, No. 636, §1; Acts 1995, No. 930, §1; Acts 1995, No. 1195, §1; Acts 1995, No. 1199, §1; Acts 1997, No. 508, §1; Acts 1997, No. 611, §1; Acts 1997, No. 1064, §1; Acts 1999, No. 738, §1; Acts 1999, No. 924, §1; Acts 1999, No. 953, §1; Acts 2003, No. 608, §1; Acts 2003, No. 766, §1; Acts 2006, No. 515, §1; Acts 2006, No. 589, §1; Acts 2008, No. 172, §1; Acts 2011, No. 159, §1; Acts 2012, No. 302, §1; Acts 2012, No. 383, §1; Acts 2014, No. 390, §2; Acts 2014, No. 776, §1, eff. June 19, 2014; Acts 2015, No. 176, §1; Acts 2015, No. 288, §1; Acts 2016, No. 541, §1; Acts 2016, No. 543, §1.
     

    longshot308

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    I feel like its almost turned into one of those things that as long as you aren't doing something stupid, no one cares. Gun show in Gonzales had a table with probably 100 of them on the table and the deputy nearby didn't seem to care. The lady at the table said no one has ever given them an issue.
    Unless the deputy was there to stop people after purchase. I was tempted....
    Honestly they are like suppressors, lots of misconceptions. My brother actually saved a guy that was attempting to hang himself and he said he was glad that he had a switchblade
     

    RaleighReloader

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    I feel like its almost turned into one of those things that as long as you aren't doing something stupid, no one cares. Gun show in Gonzales had a table with probably 100 of them on the table and the deputy nearby didn't seem to care. The lady at the table said no one has ever given them an issue.
    Unless the deputy was there to stop people after purchase. I was tempted....
    Honestly they are like suppressors, lots of misconceptions. My brother actually saved a guy that was attempting to hang himself and he said he was glad that he had a switchblade

    I saw the same table at the Gonzales show. I wanted to look a bit closer, but I then got distracted by a stainless steel S&W Model 60 that ended up following me home somehow.

    In truth, nothing about LA's knife laws will change unless politicians start getting a lot of heat about it. It would take a lot of law-abiding knife owners putting a LOT of pressure on legislators to get this turned around. And that movement will need to be ready to counter the "OH MY GOD AUTOMATIC KNIVES THE END OF THE WORLD!!!" resistance that the usual suspects will throw up (especially at a time when any weapon with the word "automatic" in its name is political quicksand).

    I'm at least glad to see that there's no LEO exception for switchblades. IMHO, law enforcement should not have access to anything that isn't also available to the general population.

    Mike
     

    sportsbud

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    I'm surprised that the knife law does not exempt military... There are several auto openers that are standard issue... On fact I carry a nice Benchmade that is in the mil supply chain... I think that these kind of laws are just knee jerk reactions to something that happened... Curious to know the motivation behind it... Like suppressors on the nfa were to discourage poaching kind of motivation.
     

    AustinBR

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    Total rip off. I don't think any of our members would be interested in that kind of trash.........

    I have four of them....that I bought for around $8 a piece. Sometimes I don't want to bring one of my expensive knives to places. Other times people need a knife and I give them one of those knowing I'll never see it again.
     

    RaleighReloader

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    I'm surprised that the knife law does not exempt military... There are several auto openers that are standard issue... On fact I carry a nice Benchmade that is in the mil supply chain... I think that these kind of laws are just knee jerk reactions to something that happened... Curious to know the motivation behind it... Like suppressors on the nfa were to discourage poaching kind of motivation.

    I don't know if it's the case with Louisiana, but I know many of our country's knife laws came about in the 1950's or thereabouts, when there was paranoia about gangs using switchblades. A lot of the laws also use more "ancient" language and talk about dirks, daggers, stilettos, and the like. I'm willing to guess that the average cop wouldn't know what a dirk is; of course, the majority of knife collectors probably don't know either, so some of these laws becomes a bit moot. :-)

    It's safe to say that most state level knife laws could use a good overhaul, if for no other reason than to bring clarity and sanity to the hodgepodge. But, like I said before, that won't happen unless there's a lot of political pressure to do this. Politicians know that touching things like knife laws will get a lot of bleeding-heart ninnies scared that bands of roving gangs will start ravaging the cities with switchblades ...

    Mike
     

    Vermiform

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    I have four of them....that I bought for around $8 a piece. Sometimes I don't want to bring one of my expensive knives to places. Other times people need a knife and I give them one of those knowing I'll never see it again.



    If you want to spend $30+ on a trash knife that some 1-post spammer posted an ebay link to in the thread, don't let me stand in your way. You should buy 4 more of them......
     

    AustinBR

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    If you want to spend $30+ on a trash knife that some 1-post spammer posted an ebay link to in the thread, don't let me stand in your way. You should buy 4 more of them......

    LOL, I'm just giving you a hard time. I think I am down to one or two of them now. Of course I would never EDC one, but having cheap knives is always useful.
     

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    LOL, I'm just giving you a hard time. I think I am down to one or two of them now. Of course I would never EDC one, but having cheap knives is always useful.

    Very useful. I have a couple shrade knock-off fixed blades (I call them Ghetto Piks) that are ideal for stashing in the bushes outside of NPE events. Never paid more than $8 for mine though.
     

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