Trump is getting a little edgy about possibly being impeached....

Rainsdrops · Aug 30, 2018

Way to much controversy for me.
Look at the personell Trump has hired, many were forced to resign or were fired.
Doesnt say much about his judgement of character.

The constant finger pointing is too much. Borderline nauseous. Hillary / Obama / bush
I understand they made terrible mistakes, but they aren't the sitting president. He said he would drain the swamp. Pull the freaking plug and stop finger pointing

At one time the US was a respectable country, with respectable leaders. We've lost our way.

I spent 8 years serving this country. 3 of those years was spent stationed overseas. There was no black people, white people, Democrat or Republican issues. Why can't we strive for that at home?
We all live in America, let's do what's best for the country
I don't think that our current state is what the founding fathers envisioned.

buttanic · Aug 30, 2018

Troedoff said:
Trump has done a great deal of good for this country. If you don't see that you have blinders on, or you are a flaming anti-oil, anti manufacturing, anti-meat eating liberal. If you work in industry, especially oil, you have directly seen the benefit of deregulation, and are starting to reap a bit of prosperity. Lower taxes are better all around, because I get to keep more of my earned money in my pocket, and it relates to better retail numbers etc, due to people's tensions about their cash flow being eased a bit. Better trade deals are more beneficial to the US long term than the short term "trade wars" that bring the unfair traders to the negotiating tables. We have been living with trade deals that were meant to be renegotiated, and were expressly negotiated to be one sided after WW2, so the US could do their part in helping the war torn countries to rebuild their economies. That time has long since gone, and now we are being taken advantage of. I am all for be American, buy American. We need to bring back the steel, and manufacturing jobs, put the rust belt back to work. Let's get our oil and energy industries back on track, and make middle class a thing again. All these are things that can be done albeit a bit more environmentally conscious than they were before safely, better, and more profitably for all Americans.

Quite frankly I don't care what Trump does in his personal life, or how much he pays them. He hasn't done anything different than any other man in America at some point. Infidelity breaks up more marriages than anything else in the country. Prostitution is a thriving business, even legitimized in some places. Until someone can show that their moral compass is more on point than the next man, then they have no room to talk. I see a lot of hypocrisy now days. The issues that matter, and will make and keep America great are what Trump has been trying to focus on, and the media, and his opposition with their misdirection would have you hung up on stupid ****ing social issues that matter for naught. We are blind dumb sheep in America the country where what kind of commode the Kardashian's are pissing in is more important than how lopsided our trade has been with our trade partners, and where we live above our heads in debt, and we don't care what the payback is as long as we can make the note. I could keep going on, but hopefully the point has gotten across. TRUMP 2020

Thank you sir.

lane · Aug 30, 2018

You got it!

Paintball · Aug 30, 2018

Troedoff said:
Trump has done a great deal of good for this country. If you don't see that you have blinders on, or you are a flaming anti-oil, anti manufacturing, anti-meat eating liberal. If you work in industry, especially oil, you have directly seen the benefit of deregulation, and are starting to reap a bit of prosperity. Lower taxes are better all around, because I get to keep more of my earned money in my pocket, and it relates to better retail numbers etc, due to people's tensions about their cash flow being eased a bit. Better trade deals are more beneficial to the US long term than the short term "trade wars" that bring the unfair traders to the negotiating tables. We have been living with trade deals that were meant to be renegotiated, and were expressly negotiated to be one sided after WW2, so the US could do their part in helping the war torn countries to rebuild their economies. That time has long since gone, and now we are being taken advantage of. I am all for be American, buy American. We need to bring back the steel, and manufacturing jobs, put the rust belt back to work. Let's get our oil and energy industries back on track, and make middle class a thing again. All these are things that can be done albeit a bit more environmentally conscious than they were before safely, better, and more profitably for all Americans.

Quite frankly I don't care what Trump does in his personal life, or how much he pays them. He hasn't done anything different than any other man in America at some point. Infidelity breaks up more marriages than anything else in the country. Prostitution is a thriving business, even legitimized in some places. Until someone can show that their moral compass is more on point than the next man, then they have no room to talk. I see a lot of hypocrisy now days. The issues that matter, and will make and keep America great are what Trump has been trying to focus on, and the media, and his opposition with their misdirection would have you hung up on stupid ****ing social issues that matter for naught. We are blind dumb sheep in America the country where what kind of commode the Kardashian's are pissing in is more important than how lopsided our trade has been with our trade partners, and where we live above our heads in debt, and we don't care what the payback is as long as we can make the note. I could keep going on, but hopefully the point has gotten across. TRUMP 2020

Troedoff · Aug 30, 2018

Rainsdrops said:
Way to much controversy for me.
Look at the personell Trump has hired, many were forced to resign or were fired.
Doesnt say much about his judgement of character.

The constant finger pointing is too much. Borderline nauseous. Hillary / Obama / bush
I understand they made terrible mistakes, but they aren't the sitting president. He said he would drain the swamp. Pull the freaking plug and stop finger pointing

At one time the US was a respectable country, with respectable leaders. We've lost our way.

I spent 8 years serving this country. 3 of those years was spent stationed overseas. There was no black people, white people, Democrat or Republican issues. Why can't we strive for that at home?
We all live in America, let's do what's best for the country
I don't think that our current state is what the founding fathers envisioned.

Why does it have to fall on Trump, and not the pandering, and constant harassment of his people? Not too many people would put up with the kind of scrutiny that Trump cabinet members are put under each and every day. Anyone that supports Trump has had a yuge red target painted on their backs. Many of the trumped "pun" up charges against his campaign people have been looming for many years. Many of the cabinet members, were ousted on trifling things that have not been held against others in the Washington Double Standard. This Presidency has not been allowed by Washington, or the media to succeed, and despite all odds, good things are happening for this country. Draining the swamp is what he is trying to do, but he cannot do it alone. He needs support in the House and Senate as well to enact long term and meaningful reform.

oleheat · Aug 30, 2018

John_ said:
He says the stock market will crash if he is impeached.

Not sure what the issue is, here. I heard more than one "expert" from the left proclaim it was sure to crash WITH him- before and after he won office. So let's be consistent. :dogkeke:

DarcMac · Aug 30, 2018

John_ said:
He says the stock market will crash if he is impeached. Trump wouldn't even make such a comment if he thought that was an impossibility (being impeached). All those lies just might haunt him. Things are fixing to get a wee bit crazy in DC.

Sorry, I have been living under a proverbial rock for the last year, so I am completely out of touch with national politics. What lies are you referring to, exactly?

EightySix · Aug 30, 2018

Nah, Trump is good to go. He is always 2 steps ahead and he is exactly what this country needed after the 8 years of that heaping pile of dung before him and even the previous years with Bush. The people on the left are no longer interested in The United States of America. They are interested in "Fundamentally changing America", now where have we heard that before? Trump has and will do lots of good for this country and as a bonus I am really enjoying Trumps rhetoric because I truly despise the far left and love seeing them squirm.
The only people that are divisive are the left throwing around their made up agenda of racism, homophobia, anti-transgender-ism, etc. They weren't even issues until the left made it an issue then told the world that the right has a problem with them.

RaleighReloader · Aug 30, 2018

Troedoff said:
Trump has done a great deal of good for this country.

He has also done tremendous harm.

Trump claims to want to support American businesses, but virtually everyone that has a wit of knowledge about international trade says that the damage he's doing by picking trade fights is going to harm American and international concerns alike.

Trump's overt sexism, xenophobia and indiscretions are a problem. The vast majority of men in this country (myself included) hold themselves to a *much* higher moral standard than Trump. Anyone rolling their eyes and making "men will be men" excuses clearly has a broken moral compass, and arguably has no place going anywhere close to the White House. I don't know about you, but my America is a place where ~~women are~~ everyone is respected and treated fairly, and not subject to physical, sexual or verbal abuse.

The Trump tax cuts benefit the rich, and have little to no effect on the middle class. Close Fox News and go read Forbes or Fortune or the Wall Street Journal; publications that are hardly the mainstay of the left, and publications that have spilled plenty of ink about the realities of these tax cuts.

One thing that Trump has mastered is the art of saying one thing and doing another. I don't believe that most of Trump's fans have any real awareness of what is going on in the world, and what his administration is actually doing. Either that, or these people can live with a much higher level of cognitive dissonance than the rest of us. Of course, there's no lack of media out there that will provide all manner of "justifications" for Trump and his actions (just as there's no lack of media that will do the same for Democrats), but that doesn't make it right. Trump can scream and yell and tweet "fake news" all he wants, but reality is reality, whether or not people choose to believe it.

Look, I was no fan of Obama, and I vigorously opposed many of his policies (including the Affordable Care Act ... and I say that as someone who lived in a country with the nationalized health insurance that the Democrats want so badly). Nobody who knows me would ever describe me as a left winger; I'm a gun owner, a lifetime benefactor NRA member, and I've advocated strongly for pro-gun policies. But Trump is doing nothing to help true conservative causes, and the backlash against him is going to be substantial.

I want for the swamp in Washington to be drained as much as everyone else. In the case of Trump, though, we've replaced the muddy waters with a proverbial septic tank.

Mike

Metryshooter · Sep 1, 2018

No, he's doing nothing to help Neo-Conservative policies. There's a difference, it's just been so long since someone has even implemented anything that resembled a trully conservative policy it's unrecognizable to some.

Magdump · Sep 2, 2018

I’d like to know if the anti trump crew here were so vocal about Obama when he was busy trying to dismantle and bankrupt this country. When he declared war on Lybia without the ok of Congress, but got a blessing from the UN...
When he shut down coal burning plants and oil drilling here at home. When he sold us out to the big banks and the UN.
Was there ever the first hint of a call for impeachment then? Does anyone here really believe that Trump has committed an impeachable offense?
Is there anyone here harping on Trump that can honestly say that their gripes with the man are definitely not shaped by the nonstop anti Trump hype flowing from the large part of mainstream media? Can you honestly say you’ve developed your own opinion and that you aren’t brainwashed at this point from the constant barrage of the anti Trump, stop Trump at all costs, liberal anti American left wing socialist communist fascist Marxist buncha snowflake crybabies this country has ever produced? Or are you just falling in?.....

340six · Sep 2, 2018

Magdump said:
I’d like to know if the anti trump crew here were so vocal about Obama when he was busy trying to dismantle and bankrupt this country. When he declared war on Lybia without the ok of Congress, but got a blessing from the UN...
When he shut down coal burning plants and oil drilling here at home. When he sold us out to the big banks and the UN.
Was there ever the first hint of a call for impeachment then? Does anyone here really believe that Trump has committed an impeachable offense?
Is there anyone here harping on Trump that can honestly say that their gripes with the man are definitely not shaped by the nonstop anti Trump hype flowing from the large part of mainstream media? Can you honestly say you’ve developed your own opinion and that you aren’t brainwashed at this point from the constant barrage of the anti Trump, stop Trump at all costs, liberal anti American left wing socialist communist fascist Marxist buncha snowflake crybabies this country has ever produced? Or are you just falling in?.....

You left out Commie Pinko. And oldie but goodie

CatCam · Sep 2, 2018

I also think Trump's popularity even through some of these "issues" is due to fact that many of us don't want or are trying to prolong the inevitable transition to the US turning into a socialist/communist country. The writing is on the wall. Just 30 years ago would you believe a Bernie Sanders could win the Presidency? It was close folks. And now they are propping up Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and the media is drooling.

If Venezuela can happen, it can happen here. Venezuela used to be a first world country. Then socialism happened.

John_ · Sep 2, 2018

Magdump said:
I’d like to know if the anti trump crew here were so vocal about Obama when he was busy trying to dismantle and bankrupt this country. When he declared war on Lybia without the ok of Congress, but got a blessing from the UN...
When he shut down coal burning plants and oil drilling here at home. When he sold us out to the big banks and the UN.
Was there ever the first hint of a call for impeachment then? Does anyone here really believe that Trump has committed an impeachable offense?
Is there anyone here harping on Trump that can honestly say that their gripes with the man are definitely not shaped by the nonstop anti Trump hype flowing from the large part of mainstream media? Can you honestly say you’ve developed your own opinion and that you aren’t brainwashed at this point from the constant barrage of the anti Trump, stop Trump at all costs, liberal anti American left wing socialist communist fascist Marxist buncha snowflake crybabies this country has ever produced? Or are you just falling in?.....

I formulate my own ideas and opinions from the facts and actions given. I never once voted for Obama for the record.

Mag, post a link where Obama shutdown coal burning plants. Prove it to me.

Obama did temporarily suspend new rigs in the gulf of mexico after the BP rig explosion and dumping over 4 million barrels of crude oil into the gulf waters. BP was fined over 4 billion dollars. BP and Transocean were operating the Deepwater Horizon in a very careless and wreckless fashion. If you cannot recognize the damage done to the Gulf of Mexico and the coast from wreckless drilling in very deep water, the impact on the coastal environment and fisheries from the BP spill, then I don't know what to say to ya.

Obama was trying to protect our environment, make moves to clean up our planet for the future. Human development and history has proven time and time again we (the human race) are slobs and pigs when it comes to trashing our planet and our oceans. Emissions, trash, and pollution. Mega trash in our oceans, overfishing, nearly wiping out many species over the last 120 years.

I don't agree with 98% of the Dem/Obama agenda, but on the environment I do agree.

Ok, lets see. Trump's promises: Last debate on tv he said if he was elected, he would appoint a special investigator to investigate Hillary Clinton. He renigged on that within 24 hours of winning the election.

Build a substantial wall on our southern border and Mexico would pay for it....... 1.6 years later, hasn't happened. Not even close.

Tax cuts. Minimal consequence for most Americans if you earn less than $200,000 a year. Cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%. If you cannot figure out who won from this major tax change, there isn't any hope for logical reasoning with you. Trump tax cuts benefit big business/corporations and the very wealthy exclusively, in a big way.

Character: Just how many times have you (has anyone) paid $130,000 to have sex with a woman? Paid collectively $280,000 to keep 2 women quiet about his trysts. Why?
And has lied about it from day one, numerous times, to the media and to the American public.
Now Trump says he paid em off out of his own pocket (a week ago).

Attacked John McCain personally numerous times in the past 2.5 years. Said he was only a war hero only because he got caught, was a POW. This from a man who never put on a uniform, never served in the military. And got a deferral for "bone spurs". Another words, his rich daddy "paid" for his son's deferral from military service during the Vietnam conflict era.And the deal with the flag at the WH immediately post McCain death.

Trump has this arrogant, "all about me and the deal" attitude. He is pissing off/agitating many various world leaders, many of them our allies. Right now Trump is an embarrassment for the USA. His approval ratings are at an all time low right now. His stream of lies, his shenanigans, hate, and his late night tweeting.
But he seems to have this cozy warm relationship with Putin.

As i have stated previously in this thread I voted for the republican POTUS candidate in 2016. I voted to secure the SCOTUS majority (conservative) for the next 15-25 years.
Trump's recent actions and spoken/typed words are an embarrassment for the USA. He damned sure is not a very honorable man. Maybe for a reality show sort of guy.

CatCam · Sep 2, 2018

Just a question --
Who do you want to see run for POTUS in 2020 and why?

Magdump · Sep 2, 2018

John, with all due respect, Obama was is and probably always will be a POS that definitely never had this nation’s best interest or the people’s best interest at heart with anything that he did. He’s already gone down as the worst president in US history. Perhaps I should have said that Obama declared war on the coal industry, which is well documented and other things he did through the EPA that hurt our oil industry. Talk to anyone in the oil industry and they can tell you how bad things were as a result.
Mainstream media and the majority of news coverage is run by a monopoly of sorts that only supports one side of our nation and is too biased for any sane person to not notice. I’m seeing the effects on people daily. No matter what Trump is able to accomplish during his presidency, it will be spun as negative and or ignored.
I don’t feel the need to prove jack to you, and since this is just a thread aimed at bashing our president I’m gonna bow out.

oppsImissed · Sep 2, 2018

Magdump · Sep 2, 2018

CatCam said:
.....the inevitable transition to the US turning into a socialist/communist country

I hope and pray that all who realize that there is a movement to attempt a transition will also be willing to oppose it with all they can muster, rather than seeing it as inevitable and bowing down and handing over whatever liberties and freedoms and rights we have left.
Venezuela is in the poor shape it’s in now due to that thinking. Over and over society has proven that socialism and communism will lead a country into utter ruin. We should not be so ready to usher in an era of socialism

CatCam · Sep 2, 2018

The one thing Trump has going for him is that he "talks to Joe Six-pack", i.e. the middle class. He is the 1st president that openly talks about all the things that "Joe Six Pack" has been living for the past 30+ years. Watching the illegals pour into this country and the systemic effect of their presence here. Like I stated before, we have come to a point that we don't care if Trump or whoever is a "Salty Sailor" -- sometimes you need that "rough around the edge" person to come in a nd get things done.

The democrats seems like they want to give everything they can to non-citizens and non-producers. The result will indeed be an eroded middle-class, an underclass of subsidized non-producers and the "limousine liberals" in their fenced off estates that never have to deal with the results of their agenda --

The MOST pathetic are the poor working dweebs who buy into the nonsense and are too thick to realize how their life is gradually getting worse by the day and their kids' futures are crap.

Higher taxes, more crime, fewer jobs and living in a country without any moral compass.

The most appalling outcry right now is the "No Borders, No Ice" crowd. Do they think for a minute that America can uplift all of these people coming to our country with no skills, ready-made-families and expectations of entitlement? Or will American's standard of living devolve into the lowest common denominator? Just take a look at the "street life" in Brazil or Venezuela but this doesn't seem to get through to this dim-witted bunch.

Take a look on the US Department of State Travel Advisory web pages for advice visiting other countries like Mexico; its horrifying. This is what the "No Borders, No ICE" clowns are willing to import here, and Trump seems to be the only President that is saying enough is enough.

John_ · Sep 3, 2018

CatCam said:
The most appalling outcry right now is the "No Borders, No Ice" crowd. Do they think for a minute that America can uplift all of these people coming to our country with no skills, ready-made-families and expectations of entitlement? Or will American's standard of living devolve into the lowest common denominator? Just take a look at the "street life" in Brazil or Venezuela but this doesn't seem to get through to this dim-witted bunch.

Take a look on the US Department of State Travel Advisory web pages for advice visiting other countries like Mexico; its horrifying. This is what the "No Borders, No ICE" clowns are willing to import here, and Trump seems to be the only President that is saying enough is enough.

Oh yes, when I read that a few weeks back I'm like what are these people thinking? Destroy ICE? It was backlash from the border adult/children separation issue.

We must have completely secure borders, we must be able to control who enters or exits our country. Whatever it takes to accomplish this.

Trump is getting a little edgy about possibly being impeached....

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