Nike rewarding the kneeler?

Tboy · Sep 3, 2018

Does a company like Nike really need to get into politics like this?

Yeah he’s famous, but for all the wrong reasons.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...nikes-30th-anniversary-of-just-do-it-campaign

oppsImissed · Sep 3, 2018

The most famous bitch in the nfl.......

JR1572 · Sep 3, 2018

The NFL and Nike haven’t seen a penny from me in a while. I will continue that trend.

Sniper56 · Sep 3, 2018

I have a hunch Nike will regret this.

BrandonPle · Sep 3, 2018

Sniper56 said:
I have a hunch Nike will regret this.

You would think so .
It's actually a great marketing ploy . Tomorrow morning millions of sheeple will buy something from them .

Tboy · Sep 3, 2018

I see this as a slap to the face of the US of A and of course trump. Dats a lotta folks to upset. But I also think a lot of people will let this just pass on by like a lot of other things in life.

CatCam · Sep 3, 2018

I just don't understand companies that go out of their way to alienate half their customers...????

But I guess it was a Business Decision......Let's see how it works out for them. :eek3:

This may have something to do with their decision:
"After years of riding high on the aspirations of urban youth for the footwear choices of Michael Jordan and Lebron James, NIKE has hit the wall, at least in the U.S. A new survey by Piper Jaffray on U.S. teen brand preferences finds NIKE losing ground with its core base, while Vans and Supreme in streetwear and Adidas, Puma and New Balance in sports performance gaining momentum."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/pamdanz.../#11b657e427df

I'm guessing "urban youth" means black kids.

Magdump · Sep 3, 2018

I don’t miss pro football in the least and never was a fan of Nike products so whatever.
Would somebody please tell me what the hell is that on top of his head?

MOTOR51 · Sep 4, 2018

Angry Nike fans BURN gear in protest of Colin Kaepernick’s ad campaign
https://dailym.ai/2Pyiq94

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Magdump · Sep 4, 2018

Lol, just keeps getting better. Can’t wait to see if Nike caves or not.
I’m amazed that the mainstream and big companies will make (supposed) drastic moves in support of all sorts of weak causes but condemn patriotism. They forget the free trade capitalist society this great country has maintained is at the heart of their success. If that society is replaced by a socialist communist country, Nike will cease to exist.

thperez1972 · Sep 4, 2018

Magdump said:
Lol, just keeps getting better. Can’t wait to see if Nike caves or not.

They've put themselves into a bad position. If the cave to appease the alienated customers, they run the risk of alienating a different subset of customers.

krotsman · Sep 4, 2018

MOTOR51 said:
Angry Nike fans BURN gear in protest of Colin Kaepernick’s ad campaign

That just means that when people forget about this, they'll have to buy new kicks (probably from Nike)

Publicity (good or bad, all the same) + New sales = Nike Win

Gus McCrae · Sep 4, 2018

It'll probably be a good move for Nike. What's their most popular shoe? Jordans? This move supports the community that buys their products.

I really don't get why everyone gets upset about the kneeling thing. A bunch of folks are doing something to bring attention to something happening that really is a problem. You can love your country and protest at the same time. I wonder if the roles were reversed, would we feel any different.

Tboy · Sep 4, 2018

Stock is down -2.22 right now. If it holds, the shareholders are gonna be po’d. I’m sure the morning meetings at Nike was pretty intense this morning...

sandman7925 · Sep 4, 2018

It’ll blow over and people will buy the same stuff. Don’t understand people’s obsession with sports. If people were not as obsessed these players opinions wouldn’t matter and they wouldn’t get paid the crazy amounts that they do.

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thperez1972 · Sep 4, 2018

Gus McCrae said:
It'll probably be a good move for Nike. What's their most popular shoe? Jordans? This move supports the community that buys their products.

I really don't get why everyone gets upset about the kneeling thing. A bunch of folks are doing something to bring attention to something happening that really is a problem. You can love your country and protest at the same time. I wonder if the roles were reversed, would we feel any different.

The issue people are having is the non-oppressed employees are disrespecting the flag on company time to call attention to oppression. But besides disrespecting the flag, they are not doing anything. Their cause should be the focus of the discussion but it's not. Their actions are the focus. So their protests are not drawing awareness to anything other than their disrespect. And they are falling into the same trap that almost all awareness campaigns have, the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge being the big exception. They feel they are doing their part by trying to make people aware. Beyond that, it's your job to do the hard part, make any changes that need to be made. They are not following up their employee policy violations with any actions. What they should do to be more effective is stand for the anthem or stay in the locker room like their employee policy states then voice their concerns after the game when they have a mic in front of them. Say they won't talk about their 63 yard touchdown run until the oppression is addressed. Personally, I believe that won't be successful either but it would certainly draw more attention to their cause and away from their actions.

If you are working and causing a scene, it's not a protest. It's a violation of the company policies.

bravo3 · Sep 4, 2018

MOTOR51 said:
Angry Nike fans BURN gear in protest of Colin Kaepernick’s ad campaign
https://dailym.ai/2Pyiq94

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Makes sense - burn what you spent money on. They have your money, now you just don't have a product.

Nike notoriously employs kids, pays poverty wages, abuses employees....but God forbid they pitch Kapernick as their guy. It's so alien to me that people get this worked up about something that in no possible way influences your life in any circumstance.

You guys do know the definition of patriotism, correct? It isn't standing by whatever public official you like or decision that a politician makes. You can't be so blinded by "patriotism" that you are oblivious to the country you support's wrongs or injustice.

krotsman · Sep 4, 2018

I'm sure that since this is such a personal integrity issue for Kaepernick, he is not taking any payment from Nike. Seems like it should just be enough that they further his noble cause, right?

Also, seems like the discussion at the time this started was that his girlfriend put him up to it to further her cause and to make a relatively average QB stand out in upcoming contract negotiations... Super noble!

Gus McCrae · Sep 4, 2018

thperez1972 said:
The issue people are having is the non-oppressed employees are disrespecting the flag on company time to call attention to oppression. But besides disrespecting the flag, they are not doing anything. Their cause should be the focus of the discussion but it's not. Their actions are the focus. So their protests are not drawing awareness to anything other than their disrespect. And they are falling into the same trap that almost all awareness campaigns have, the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge being the big exception. They feel they are doing their part by trying to make people aware. Beyond that, it's your job to do the hard part, make any changes that need to be made. They are not following up their employee policy violations with any actions. What they should do to be more effective is stand for the anthem or stay in the locker room like their employee policy states then voice their concerns after the game when they have a mic in front of them. Say they won't talk about their 63 yard touchdown run until the oppression is addressed. Personally, I believe that won't be successful either but it would certainly draw more attention to their cause and away from their actions.

If you are working and causing a scene, it's not a protest. It's a violation of the company policies.

As far as violation of company policies..... that's between the employer and the employee. None of my business.

Is it effective? Might be/might not. We'll see if changes happen.

Are they not following up with actions? I honestly don't know. I agree that there may not be any.

I just don't understand why we are upset about the kneeling.

thperez1972 · Sep 4, 2018

Gus McCrae said:
As far as violation of company policies..... that's between the employer and the employee. None of my business.

The company policy violation involves disrespecting the flag, and by extension, the country. Some people don't like that. And they have a right to express their displeasure. Unlike an employee, a customer does not fall under a company's policies. It would be akin to your walking into a grocery store and having the cashier stomp on an American flag before they ring you up. You are welcome to react in different ways. You could choose to ignore it. You could bring it to the attention of the company. You could share your displeasure with family, friends, and/or strangers.

Gus McCrae said:
Is it effective? Might be/might not. We'll see if changes happen.

Are they not following up with actions? I honestly don't know. I agree that there may not be any.

It's been going on for 2 years now. I realize change may take time. But when you hear talk of the protest, what do you usually hear? A call for change or information on the actions of the players. If there's been any action by the players outside of their protests, it would be reasonable to say the liberal press would have picked up on it. The goal of the protests is nationwide change. It would be tough to imagine any player wanting to make his actions toward that public change a private matter.

Gus McCrae said:
I just don't understand why we are upset about the kneeling.

You posted that in a reply to the post where it was explained to you. If you are not upset, good for you. You don't have to agree with people being upset to understand why they are upset.

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