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firemanwade said:

The problem these two idiots have is that they made a choice to go outside with firearms to confront their neighbor over trash. Since they knew that this guy was prone to violence they escalated the situation with their actions. Stand you ground does not apply when you brandish a weapon. You are the aggressor at that point. Hot head should have went back inside and called the cops and with the video Dipshit 1 and his son would have went to jail. They will spend a long time in jail, rightly so. Self Defense only applies when you defend yourself. Knowingly going into a situation you know to be dangerous with your gun out takes your defense away.

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firemanwade said:

The problem these two idiots have is that they made a choice to go outside with firearms to confront their neighbor over trash. Since they knew that this guy was prone to violence they escalated the situation with their actions. Stand you ground does not apply when you brandish a weapon. You are the aggressor at that point. Hot head should have went back inside and called the cops and with the video Dipshit 1 and his son would have went to jail. They will spend a long time in jail, rightly so. Self Defense only applies when you defend yourself. Knowingly going into a situation you know to be dangerous with your gun out takes your defense away.

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AustinBR said:

Pull the trigger, accept the consequences. Two guys should have known better.

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Emperor said:

If the videos indicates that a bat was hurled at the older "shirtless" dumbass before the shootings began, how do you not see the argument that he feared for his life or thought he was in imminent danger of bodily harm? Let's assume they have a history between them, and let's assume the hothead took the same angry approach to every run-in with the neighbors; threatening to assault them or kill them. He most certainly DID specifically threaten to kill them each on several occasions in the video. Now he has a bat in his hands. Do you not think that one good whack of a wooden bat to the human skull would not be sufficient to put a man in a coma, or kill him? Remember how big this guy was?

I would surmise that these three have all mouthed off before to each other and threats of death were present. I would also assume, judging by how calm the older dumbass was, that he appreciated the gravity of this situation. That will be looked at, along with the history between them. The older guy very calmly told the dead man walking several times, "He was not going to allow him to hurt them (or words to that effect)!" Let's also assume the older dumbass knew the hothead was a serial hothead, and then knew of the many run-ins he has on his record to that end. Do you think he should have not taken this guy serious when the guy told him repeatedly he was going to kill them both while he was just a few steps away with a bat?

How many of you guys that CC don't know not to allow anyone within two arms lengths of you, ever? Concealed or not, this old dude was one whack away from being killed in an instant. There were several instances where they were inches apart from each other.

Of course this will be played in court, and I could be wrong; but like every video of a crime on the internet, we do not have all the facts. The only thing I see that is cut and dry in this incident is a guy is dead, and two people shot him. Hindsight is 20/20! Don't waste your time talking about what they SHOULD have done; they are passed that now!

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Emperor said:

If the videos indicates that a bat was hurled at the older "shirtless" dumbass before the shootings began, how do you not see the argument that he feared for his life or thought he was in imminent danger of bodily harm? Let's assume they have a history between them, and let's assume the hothead took the same angry approach to every run-in with the neighbors; threatening to assault them or kill them. He most certainly DID specifically threaten to kill them each on several occasions in the video. Now he has a bat in his hands. Do you not think that one good whack of a wooden bat to the human skull would not be sufficient to put a man in a coma, or kill him? Remember how big this guy was?

I would surmise that these three have all mouthed off before to each other and threats of death were present. I would also assume, judging by how calm the older dumbass was, that he appreciated the gravity of this situation. That will be looked at, along with the history between them. The older guy very calmly told the dead man walking several times, "He was not going to allow him to hurt them (or words to that effect)!" Let's also assume the older dumbass knew the hothead was a serial hothead, and then knew of the many run-ins he has on his record to that end. Do you think he should have not taken this guy serious when the guy told him repeatedly he was going to kill them both while he was just a few steps away with a bat?

How many of you guys that CC don't know not to allow anyone within two arms lengths of you, ever? Concealed or not, this old dude was one whack away from being killed in an instant. There were several instances where they were inches apart from each other.

Of course this will be played in court, and I could be wrong; but like every video of a crime on the internet, we do not have all the facts. The only thing I see that is cut and dry in this incident is a guy is dead, and two people shot him. Hindsight is 20/20! Don't waste your time talking about what they SHOULD have done; they are passed that now!

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firemanwade said:

This is a easy case. They are no good guys. It boils down to this, you cannot place yourself in harm's way and then claim self defense. Hard to claim I feared for my life so I brought a gun to confront my neighbor about his trash habits. First thing taught to me about carrying a gun was that you must avoid a confrontation if you can or you might end up in the can

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D_behrnes said:

There’s a company that’s started making these lowers. Where most companies put their logo or design they put the picture below in that spot.

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John_ said:

now 222. They be moving.

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AustinBR said:

But why though :| People are stupid.

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AustinBR said:

But why though :| People are stupid.

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Pas Tout La said:

I have a strong suspicion that all of the other neighbors are happy. Happy dipshit #1 is dead and the father/son dipshit duo are in jail. Now they can all live in relative peace.... Funny how things kind of work themselves out.

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Magdump said:

So, both charged with murder...

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