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    Louisiana Drivers License on Phone.

    Louisiana in July became the first state to make digital licenses available to anyone who wants them, and at least 14 other states either have developed a program, run a pilot or are studying the possibility, according to the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators.
    Seventy-seven percent of American adults already own a smartphone, including 94 percent of adults under 30, and many state motor vehicle officials think residents will appreciate the convenience of having their driver's license available in an app.

    Officials also like that the licenses are connected to a central database and can be updated easily with, for example, suspensions or revocations.
    And unlike plastic cards that can easily be counterfeited or tampered with, mobile licenses are less susceptible to fraud, they say. But as is often the case when something analog goes digital, privacy advocates worry about the potential for government overreach and fear the digital licenses and motor vehicle databases will become vulnerable to hackers.

    "These are shiny new things, and states are only talking about the upsides," said Chad Marlow, a senior counsel at the American Civil Liberties Union in New York. "It is very important the public understand there are significant risks with digital driver's licenses. I think it is irresponsible for states to offer them (without explaining those risks)."
    Colorado, Delaware, Maryland and Wyoming are among the states that have started a digital driver's license pilot program. Others are exploring the possibility.

    "This is a quantum leap improvement over what has been the traditional model for how we ask for and receive identification," said Geoff Slagle, director of identity management at the motor vehicle administrators' association. "With this approach, I'm able to verify that the MVA actually created that license for you and that it was overseen by them."
    Only one state – New Mexico – does not allow drivers to use an electronic copy of their insurance card during a traffic stop, according to the Property Casualty Insurers Association of America.
    Slagle said digital driver's licenses won't replace plastic ones; they'll simply be a supplement. Everybody still will have to carry a physical license for the foreseeable future.

    Eventually, officials envision people using digital licenses not only for traffic stops and airport ID but also in bars, grocery stores, casinos, banks, doctor's offices and as voter ID at polling places.
    About 35,000 of Louisiana's approximately 4 million drivers have signed up to have their license available on the LA Wallet app, said Paige Paxton, a field administrator for the Louisiana Office of Motor Vehicles. And on Election Day, the secretary of state's office allowed voters to display digital licenses instead of plastic ones.

    "We like to move with the times. We saw the potential," Paxton said. "Our plan is to eventually make it so your registration, insurance or any credential would be on LA Wallet."
    The program was jointly designed by the motor vehicles office, the Louisiana State Police and the Department of Public Safety. It was developed for free by Envoc, a Louisiana software firm, Paxton said, and there has been no cost to the state.

    Louisiana residents can download the Apple or Google app for free but must pay a $5.99 activation fee (most of which goes to the software developer; the rest to Google or Apple) that covers them until their driver's license expires.
    Drivers must use a PIN number, fingerprint or both to access their license, which is linked to the DMV data system. "This is not a static thing," Paxton said. "It's a live connect."
    For now, the app only can be used for stops by Louisiana police and for voting, and drivers still must carry a physical license for the foreseeable future, Paxton said. Louisiana's Office of Alcohol and Tobacco Control is developing a policy and training materials for its officers.
    LA Wallet was developed after the state legislature passed a measure in 2016 allowing the creation of digitized licenses as an alternative to physical ones.
    To address privacy concerns, the law says that displaying a digital license doesn't serve as consent or authorization for police or anyone else to search or view any other data or app on the mobile device.

    And at the request of state police, Paxton said, the policy goes even further: Under its hands-off procedure, police can check the license without having to take the phone from the driver.
    "Our state police were concerned," Paxton said, "that there was a potential that someone could say, 'Hey, you broke my phone.' So, who's liable for that if a screen is shattered?"
    So far, the system has been working just fine for state troopers, said Lt. Nick Manale, a Louisiana State Police spokesman.

    "We're not aware of any problems with it, as long as the driver has cellphone connectivity," he said. "And they always have a physical driver's license as a backup."
    The app, which Paxton said does not track users' location, also is built so the screen only shows what's needed. If a store clerk or bouncer scans it, for example, the app would show only whether the person is old enough to drink.
     

    JBP55

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    What’s the point if I still have to have a traditional one on me?


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    You might be shocked how many drivers do not carry their DL on person. Some had a picture of DL on their phone long before this became law.
    They may not carry their DL everywhere but do carry their cell phone everywhere.
     

    Kraut

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    The availability of this option doesn't hurt anything, but really, how flippin' hard is it to have your license with you when you leave your house? It's called adulting, and it's really not as difficult as people make it out to be.
     

    JBP55

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    The availability of this option doesn't hurt anything, but really, how flippin' hard is it to have your license with you when you leave your house? It's called adulting, and it's really not as difficult as people make it out to be.

    I have 8 forms of ID in my wallet 5 of them including my DL are picture ID.
    My wallet and pistol are both on my person unless I am in the shower or bed.
     

    charlie12

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    I'm 66 got my DL at 15 I don't think I've ever driven without it in my wallet. For over 20 years I've had a CHP in my Wallet and my VA ID.
    If they are too lazy to carry their DL they shouldn't drive
     

    thperez1972

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    You might be shocked how many drivers do not carry their DL on person. Some had a picture of DL on their phone long before this became law.
    They may not carry their DL everywhere but do carry their cell phone everywhere.

    I'm not surprised. I've stopped a number of people through the years who left their ID at the house because they accidentally put on their brother's pants. You know, the pants that happened to have a bag of weed in the pocket the wearer didn't realize was there because it wasn't his pants.
     

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    I'm not surprised. I've stopped a number of people through the years who left their ID at the house because they accidentally put on their brother's pants. You know, the pants that happened to have a bag of weed in the pocket the wearer didn't realize was there because it wasn't his pants.

    Used to happen to me all the time.. NOT !!!!
     

    sportsbud

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    I actually did this because I go running and carry as little as possible.... You can even pay with you phone in many places now... But I still carry my wallet with ID everywhere this is cheap insurance... Plus if you get pulled over for being on the phone you can say you were just getting your ID out.... ;)
     

    JBP55

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    Its in a live account. I hope you never get stopped somewhere with no signal! Or if your battery goes dead...

    If the LEO verifies you have a valid DL you could still POSSIBLY be issued a citation for No DL on Person.
     

    kingfhb

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    What about the reasonable expectation of privacy? I've always wondered about that with insurance information being on the phone as well. The officer, once you surrender your device to them, has full control of your phone and its contents... for as long as he/she wants it. What is the reasonable expectation of privacy at that point? There's no verbal or contractual "agreement" that the officer will only access the image or document you've shown them.

    Unless it is written into the law, statute, ordinance, etc.
     

    Creoleman

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    Just like I used to say about boarding passes at the airport, I really love the battery life of printed documents vs. digital. Of course, I am "old". :)
     
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