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  • oleheat

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    They can't bring themselves to stop. They've dug too deep of a hole to climb out now. :rofl:
     

    Bangswitch

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    They can't bring themselves to stop. They've dug too deep of a hole to climb out now. :rofl:

    I just hope they didn’t get the OSHA training on holes and it caves in on top of CNN, MSNBC, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, and the like. I suspect Adam Shift’s head explodes today at some point.
     

    dirty_sanchez

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    Yep, exactly what Oleheat said.

    And just like that.. "Orange man bad. We still don't believe you!" Entirely too many people have nearly 3 years of emotional investment in this story to accept an outcome they don't want to hear.

    Me on the other hand, am still not fully on board with this whole "The Earth is Round" movement-afterall, every map I've ever seen is FLAT!

    HELLO?
     

    Coyote5.0

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    I just hope they didn’t get the OSHA training on holes and it caves in on top of CNN, MSNBC, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, and the like. I suspect Adam Shift’s head explodes today at some point.

    My wish too. I really hate liars. These people are so far in they are under a delusion.
     

    machinedrummer

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    There must be business opportunities in this whole thing. Emotional support groups, crying centers, trump whack a mole machines, rage rooms, maybe even a cruise that ends with all the people that just can’t go on throwing themselves into an active volcano. A cult leader could convince them another asteroid is coming by soon?
     

    Emperor

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    The saddest thing of all is knowing that there are people out there that identify as Americans who are okay with Nadler and Schiff continuing to waste this country's time and our tax dollars for this nonsense.

    Everyone that is found to have played a role in the illegal spying of Trump, the attempted coup, and the perimeter illegalities should be tried for actual treason against the United States.

    This country will NOT recover unless some people that may have ACTUALLY broken the law, get indicted.
     

    machinedrummer

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    The saddest thing of all is knowing that there are people out there that identify as Americans who are okay with Nadler and Schiff continuing to waste this country's time and our tax dollars for this nonsense.

    Everyone that is found to have played a role in the illegal spying of Trump, the attempted coup, and the perimeter illegalities should be tried for actual treason against the United States.

    This country will NOT recover unless some people that may have ACTUALLY broken the law, get indicted.

    If indictments were to be made do you realize how many associates of the clintons and obummera will be forced to commit suicide? Trump would have to declare another national emergency for suicide prevention
     

    DarcMac

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    I just watched the Barr press conference. No surprises there. Will the Dems and sycophant media tone it down? My guess is no.

    They won't stop until they are forced to stop one way or another. That's because their loyalty is not to the American people, but to George Soros.
     

    Jack

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    There are a few key things going on here that are worth noting. The first is that our politics have devolved into a more obvious tribalism than even during the Obama administration. You can see this in the radical shift of the left to oppose anything Trump supports. The border being a perfect example, the policies of the left are radically different from what they were even 5 years ago. This tribalism is impacting our country and seems like this is the root of most of the FBI investigation. Where this becomes a problem for the Democrats is simple. Simply disliking someone is not enough to predicate a massive intrusion into a political campaign.

    The reason the democrats are doubling down on all of this stuff is pretty simple. They’re attempting to discredit Bill Barr before the investigations into the genesis of the FISA warrants, Steele dossier, etc. If they can get out ahead of what will likely be very bad news for them, they can lessen his credibility and thus the credibility of what is found.

    The second is that we have more low information voters and a media willing to capitalize on that. MSNBC being a perfect example. Their chasing of ratings regarding the Russian investigations and their willingness to post unverified information in that pursuit have caused them to lose tons of viewers following the release of the Mueller report. Because of this, they are also invested in the outcome. The more Barr is discredited, the less they are discredited, and the less their viewership shrinks. They’ll parrot talking points for the foreseeable future to keep chasing that trump bump.
     
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    There has been impeachment talk about every President since Carter(at least that I can remember.) Our modern tech has given new voice to it. It seems that the new normal is make impeachment the tool of sore losers.
    The impeachment of Bill Clinton, as much as I enjoyed it, was a waste of time and money. The votes were not there in the Senate then and not now either. The hard left Democrats are welcome to try it if they do not wish to learn from the Republicans. They will re-elect Trump. Bring it!
     

    Bangswitch

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    There are a few key things going on here that are worth noting. The first is that our politics have devolved into a more obvious tribalism than even during the Obama administration. You can see this in the radical shift of the left to oppose anything Trump supports. The border being a perfect example, the policies of the left are radically different from what they were even 5 years ago. This tribalism is impacting our country and seems like this is the root of most of the FBI investigation. Where this becomes a problem for the Democrats is simple. Simply disliking someone is not enough to predicate a massive intrusion into a political campaign.

    The reason the democrats are doubling down on all of this stuff is pretty simple. They’re attempting to discredit Bill Barr before the investigations into the genesis of the FISA warrants, Steele dossier, etc. If they can get out ahead of what will likely be very bad news for them, they can lessen his credibility and thus the credibility of what is found.

    The second is that we have more low information voters and a media willing to capitalize on that. MSNBC being a perfect example. Their chasing of ratings regarding the Russian investigations and their willingness to post unverified information in that pursuit have caused them to lose tons of viewers following the release of the Mueller report. Because of this, they are also invested in the outcome. The more Barr is discredited, the less they are discredited, and the less their viewership shrinks. They’ll parrot talking points for the foreseeable future to keep chasing that trump bump.

    I don’t think it’s low information voters. Low information voters (Clinton was a know pervert in ‘92) have always existed the difference is now we have a plethora of social media outlets for them to opine. It has become such an intricate part of our lives the *news media* has become so lazy they use social media to fill dead air. To add to the problem, people have become more selfish and self obsessed than ever. How many from 8-38 suffer from *lack of likes syndrome* (I want credit for this if anyone uses it in a psychology paper). YouTube is a cornucopia of ignorance. Even worse you can become stupid rich documenting your stupidity on YouTube. See it’s not the lack of information but the over abundance of misinformation that we suffer from in the social media age.
     

    Jack

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    I actually disagree on a few of those counts. I think that some of the better voices on YouTube are the best voices across all platforms. Because the platform itself is more open than others, it allows people to have viewpoints that are unpopular or wouldn’t get huge ratings.

    To me, high misinformation is low information, and we have that, plus those people who only read headlines without giving anything much thought. I’m a bit young to remember 1992, but I can say it feels like the echo chambers presented by certain facets of the news and certainly by social media add to that polarization and lack of information.

    I think a lot of what’s shown below comes down to those echo chambers at work. I mean, the Democratic Party has openly become the party of anti-semitism, abortion to point of birth, open borders, totally ignoring science, safe spaces, anti-interracial couples, speech is violence, punching nazis(and EVERYONE right of Bill Mahr is a Nazi), etc. etc. Certainly some of this stuff has been around, but they’ve never been so blatant about it.

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    I actually disagree on a few of those counts. I think that some of the better voices on YouTube are the best voices across all platforms. Because the platform itself is more open than others, it allows people to have viewpoints that are unpopular or wouldn’t get huge ratings.

    To me, high misinformation is low information, and we have that, plus those people who only read headlines without giving anything much thought. I’m a bit young to remember 1992, but I can say it feels like the echo chambers presented by certain facets of the news and certainly by social media add to that polarization and lack of information.

    I think a lot of what’s shown below comes down to those echo chambers at work. I mean, the Democratic Party has openly become the party of anti-semitism, abortion to point of birth, open borders, totally ignoring science, safe spaces, anti-interracial couples, speech is violence, punching nazis(and EVERYONE right of Bill Mahr is a Nazi), etc. etc. Certainly some of this stuff has been around, but they’ve never been so blatant about it.

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    I think this is a good point. The way I see mass media, along with social media today, is that progressives are trying to use it to condition people to accept ideas that are extremely anti-American. Things like socialism, open borders, and extreme gun control. None of those things are compatible with the Constitution. In order to tear down America and rebuild it in the progressive image, they are going to have to find some way to either get rid of the Constitution, or weaken it to the point it can no longer protect anything. That the power-mad crowd is doing this is not surprising. Control freaks are going to try to do what they can to get the control. What's scary is the number of people who buy into it, bobble-head, and accept these ideas. And viciously, violently attack anyone who disagrees with them. What happened to the country that cherished freedom and civil liberties? Do any of these mindless sheep realize what their life is going to be like under a socialist autocracy? Do they look to places like Venezuela and want to have that here? It's mind-boggling how brainwashed people are becoming. The government is not going have to strip away our freedoms. Plenty of people are ready to surrender them without a fight. It's truly frightening.
     

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