Louisiana trying to ban death penalty?
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Bangswitch
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See and here lies a problem I have when the justice system is discussed. On one hand we talk about sentences as punishment and the other as deterrent. Then we look though each prism without regard for the other depending on the concern. I’m not intending to hammer you but the mental yoga we do to feel good.
The man you speak of may very well be insane, and it seems unseemly that one would *punish* someone for a crime they may not have done if a disease/illness had not made them. However you hamstring the deterrent by letting coo-coo bird off a little light.
What we should all want for society is justice, and justice is not served by feeding a murder 3 squares for the next 60 years, mental illness or not.
RaleighReloader
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The problem is, the vast majority of the research suggests that capital punishment isn't a deterrent.
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Bangswitch
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Because we are limp wristed whiners bring back public hangings for the cases that are open and shut cases and end the appeals process for those guys, and watch how quick it’s a deterrent. But again you can’t look at it as just a deterrent or just a punishment, because it’s neither. It’s the exacting of justice
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He's right....It cost the state millions to put a convicted felon to death. Quite honestly, I think putting them down is allowing them to get off too easy. Let those azz holes rot, and enjoy their room without a view. I've toured Angola when I worked for the state. It's not any place any wants to be. It's NOT "easy time" there. Believe me, it sux hard.
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Along with prosecutors who withheld evidence from the defense, and let that include law enforcement that gave false or misleading statements. Require that they spend an equal time in jail. Make prosecutors actually seek justice and not just try to make a name for themselves by winning more cases.
What is wrong with the current law already in place that covers this issue?
You will need to provide links to some of that "vast research", because that is simply not true. In fact, public executions have proven to be incredibly effective deterrents. It scares the **** out of people. States with high rates of criminal executions, such as Texas, experience a lower level of violent crime per capita than states that avoid the death penalty, such as Illinois.
There is a very good reason the death penalty was reinstated after only a few years of abolition in the 70s. Even bleeding-heart liberal states wanted it back because the crime rate skyrocketed.
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I hereby offer my services as state executioner for millions less than the current cost - only a modest salary, plus the cost of the bullets. I promise that a magnum caliber bullet through the brain is completely quick and painless for you bleeding heart "poor criminal" wimps.
Bangswitch
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I’m not sure on all your argument but your premise is solid. The western world handles crime in such a genteel fashion compared to the rest of the world. Many are barbaric but many tend to enjoy lower crime rates. Maybe we should land somewhere between loosing hand for petty theft and coddling a bunch of dirtbags.
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I am for the death penalty. I do not believe it is a deterrent. It is used too infrequently and the wait is too long for the average criminal to fear being put to death. I would say it is not a deterrent against the more heinous crimes because of the same issues. With respect to Louisiana, there have been about 28 people put to death in the last 40 or so years and nobody put to death since 2010. There are more than twice as many people on death row. At that rate, it will be 80 years before death row is cleared out. And that's not counting those added after today. So in theory, they are waiting to be put to death. In practice, it's just a life sentence without parole. I can't see how that's a deterrent. But if you have the numbers to show it is, and that seems to be the case judging by your post, I'm open minded and will look at the data.
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