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    Quote Originally Posted by jstokes1 View Post
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    I think his point was highlighting a sample of the members here that said nothing bad will come from bumpstock decree, that "it's a useless toy" they were okay with having banned, and failed to realize the precedent set in using the DOJ/ATF to make law to circumvent law set in place by congress. Most here (and to be fair other gun owners across many platforms) were too nearsighted to look that far ahead... but here we are not even 6 months later with another unconstitutional proposal coming from the same man that said,"the 8 year assault on your second amendment rights is now over."
    That is how I understood it and agree with you 100% . I never Trusted Trump as far as the second amendment and when he appointed a pro 2ond to the SCOTUS I said I would gladly eat crow , after the bump ban I decided to put the crow back in the freezer and wait and see who he puts in the next SCOTUS position . Hopefully I will be eating crow when and if it happens . I am not predicting he will waver I'm just praying he doesn't .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCcypress View Post
    It's almost as if he's a politician who only cares about his own self interests...

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=63502902
    How was Trump suckered into doing an interview with Piers Morgan to begin with? I smell something is up and its not Gumbo!
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    Time for action

    Quote Originally Posted by machinedrummer View Post
    Look at Virginia. Suppressors and hicap mags will be banned. Mr t will EO suppressor if he sees fit. Iíve been jumped before but this guy is the biggest threat to our 2nd amendment in a long time. Itís paving the way for the Dems to lay waste to our rights if there is any left when they again gain power. When the pen overrides the house and senate we are no longer free. Oh wait we are already there.
    IMHO, at that point we need a bloody revolution and fix our govt. Maybe bring back dueling....

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoutgunner View Post
    IMHO, at that point we need a bloody revolution and fix our govt. Maybe bring back dueling....
    Dueling??? How about a rope and hang em' from the light poles in DC
    "When You Go Home, Tell Them Of Us And Say, For Your Tomorrow, We Gave Our's Today"

    Voting is the responsibility of a citizen, even if voting may not necessarily be obligatory. To not vote seems to me to be an abrogation of one's responsibility as a citizen, regardless of one's politics.

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    "Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. America was born of protest, revolution and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long" - Ron Paul

    "I can sacrifice my liberties, and you can sacrifice yours, but I cannot sacrifice yours; neither can a majority in Congress sacrifice yours or mine." - Judge Andrew Napolitano

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    y'all are definitely on the right track about the slippery slope here. if it's ok to ban hi-cap mags, bump stocks, suppressors, etc, when does it become ok to ban 50s? CA already did it. if it's ok to ban 50s, how about a 468? 338LM? 300RUM? most of the murders i deal with are committed with 9mm and 40, so if we just completely get rid of them except MIL-LEO, well...

    it's about that whole "pursuit of happiness" part. they're trying to force the issue that you don't "need" a suppressor or a 100-rd drum mag to be happy. well, sure, of course not. maybe. why is it anyone's place to say what a law-abiding citizen who's not harming anyone "needs" to be happy? if you don't need a 50, or a suppressor, or a full auto, then why do you need a fullsize SUV or a ferrari or more than 3 bedrooms? why do you need more than just barely enough money to pay your utilities and mortgage?

    start with small ridiculous stuff that most people don't mind being banned, and work your way toward confiscating everything such that they're left wholly dependent on the state. saul alinsky advocated just that, based on his studies of mao, stalin, hitler, and other totalitarian regimes throughout history.

    remember how it used to be perfectly legal to beat the flying snot out of someone for calling you a coward? for assaulting your wife? nowadays you get into a fistfight and you're both getting charged with battery, because we're "civilized". all of this recalls the old adage:

    hard times create strong men.
    strong men create good times.
    good times create weak men.
    weak men create hard times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator 45/70 View Post
    Dueling??? How about a rope and hang em' from the light poles in DC
    I’m sure there is a law or city ordinance put in place to prevent that from happening. Pulling permits for such an event would be a nightmare. Not only that since it would be a permitted event open carriers would not be allowed to attend. See what they have created. We can’t vote our way out of this. It’s like bailing out the boat while at the bottom of the ocean.
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    Kind of ironic.... Our 2A rights got better under Obama and worse under Trump.... Plus, he's looking to go even further.
    Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus McCrae View Post
    Kind of ironic.... Our 2A rights got better under Obama and worse under Trump.... Plus, he's looking to go even further.
    Dam 2 party system and dead people voting...not to mention illegals...
    "When You Go Home, Tell Them Of Us And Say, For Your Tomorrow, We Gave Our's Today"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator 45/70 View Post
    Dam 2 party system and dead people voting...not to mention illegals...
    I would love a 4 party system . We need a constitutional party but to split the Republican vote would be suicide unless the Democrats split in half , semi socialist party and full blown socialist party .

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