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  1. #11
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    Itís all fun and games until someone gets injured in the stampede to exit the store. It might be ďlegalĒ but you would have to be a moron to think itís ok. Why would anyone want to scare people in this day and age is baffling. Maybe your wife knows itís legal and isnít scared but I bet you would be nine kinds of pissed off if she was injured by the mass exodus caused by this wingnut.


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  2. #12
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    As a person who understands laws, physics, ballistics, and time; the biggest part of this intersection of law and human perception is the reality that you cannot trust people in this world anymore. By that I mean, if this clown isn't just exercising his Right to walk around with a firearm, and decides to start shooting, anyone within yards of him are fatalities in seconds if he is just a reasonable marksman. Also, and you all know this, those projectiles will pass through several aisles of that store, possibly killing or injuring people that can't even see him or where the bullets are coming from.

    Simply put, I don't know what another person's intentions are. Do I want everyone to be able to exercise their Constitutional Rights? Of course. But as I said before concerning the New Zealand shooter, by the time innocent bystanders knew what was going on, they would have been dead if he wanted to target them. Even with my own pistol with me, it is no match for an AR; and I am not even going to try unless I am cornered, and have absolutely no other choice.

    It is not the law that is the problem, it is the unstable people that live in this country that are.

    If you dress up in military style gear, and you have a chest rig on you, hanging an AR, while walking in public place; you are not responsibly exercising your Right. I would have to consider you a legitimate nutcase and threat.
    Last edited by Emperor; August 9th, 2019 at 01:21 PM.
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  3. #13
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    Ohh you right!!! My wife might have even shot him, you know that, she don’t play with her kiddos !!! LOL!!! I can tell you if I was in there I would have kept him in my sights till I made it out the door... and I wouldn’t have waited to check out either lol... I would have been gone...


    Quote Originally Posted by MOTOR51 View Post
    It’s all fun and games until someone gets injured in the stampede to exit the store. It might be *legal* but you would have to be a moron to think it’s ok. Why would anyone want to scare people in this day and age is baffling. Maybe your wife knows it’s legal and isn’t scared but I bet you would be nine kinds of pissed off if she was injured by the mass exodus caused by this wingnut.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigchillin83 View Post
    Ohh you right!!! My wife might have even shot him, you know that, she donít play with her kiddos !!! LOL!!! I can tell you if I was in there I would have kept him in my sights till I made it out the door... and I wouldnít have waited to check out either lol... I would have been gone...
    Lol. True


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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor View Post
    If you dress up in military style gear, and you have a chest rig on you, hanging an AR, while walking in public place; you are not responsibly exercising your Right. I would have to consider you a legitimate nutcase and threat.
    Exactly. There is a huge difference between carrying for self-protection and carrying for attention. The latter is what causes problems for everyone else.

    If you are wearing a tucked in collared shirt, look well-kept, and have a pistol in a hip-holster, most people won't notice you or will assume you are a cop. Varying levels outside of that are solely for drawing attention to yourself which is just a terrible idea in every way possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinBR View Post
    Exactly. There is a huge difference between carrying for self-protection and carrying for attention. The latter is what causes problems for everyone else.

    If you are wearing a tucked in collared shirt, look well-kept, and have a pistol in a hip-holster, most people won't notice you or will assume you are a cop. Varying levels outside of that are solely for drawing attention to yourself which is just a terrible idea in every way possible.
    I will admit, that the modern rifles are by and at large, a superior effective weapon to send a lot of bullets in a short span of time. But, can't kid myself either by thinking that a guy with a 19-round Glock couldn't kill 19 people, all crowded together, in the time it takes to empty that magazine.

    You just don't know anymore.

    Too many people with too many psychological issues.

    I think I would gladly trade legal "non-permitted open carry" for legal "non-permitted concealed carry." That would end a lot of confusion. It would be a lot easier to spot the nutcase/threat trying to hide an AK or AR in his pants.
    Last edited by Emperor; August 9th, 2019 at 01:33 PM.
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  7. #17
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    Oh I deff agree with that... even though that’s stereotyping and we are thought that is wrong. lmbo... but legally.... what law was broken.... if anything the manager pulled the fire alarm... did he not cause the riot. Just playing the devils advocate here lol... was he protecting his customers without a doubt!!! And if anything would have went wrong and turned into a active shooter he would have potentially saved 100’s of lives... but if he was just law abiding individual walking and somebody got hurt in the riot, wouldn’t it be the managers fault..

    *He showed up in boots to the black tie affair* in the wrong get up!!! He better have some friends in low places lol. They getting there ducks in a row before the formally charge him with something. And I bet they got a high $ crew of assets telling them what charge is gonna stick, yup he’s in a bind


    Quote Originally Posted by AustinBR View Post
    Exactly. There is a huge difference between carrying for self-protection and carrying for attention. The latter is what causes problems for everyone else.

    If you are wearing a tucked in collared shirt, look well-kept, and have a pistol in a hip-holster, most people won't notice you or will assume you are a cop. Varying levels outside of that are solely for drawing attention to yourself which is just a terrible idea in every way possible.
    Last edited by Bigchillin83; August 9th, 2019 at 01:36 PM.

  8. #18
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    In today's society its all about perception. Like Austin said, present yourself as a decent/professional person that isn't trying to draw attention to yourself, and you rarely if ever have issues. I carry openly yet discretely with a IWB holster housing a Sub-Compact pistol, daily. I'm legally carrying under the law, but I'm still acting/dressing/otherwise presenting myself in a way that is non-threatening to others and most people don't even notice I'm carrying half the time. Even though it's easily seen if you look. If someone does notice, and asks the classic, "Whatcha carrying?", I give a simple, low key, direct answer in a polite fashion and change the subject away from my weapon. All in all, Don't let others perceive you as a threat of any kind, and you won't have any issues.
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  9. #19
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    This is true!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor View Post
    I will admit, that the modern rifles are by and at large, a superior effective weapon to send a lot of bullets in a short span of time. But, can't kid myself either by thinking that a guy with a 19-round Glock couldn't kill 19 people, all crowded together, in the time it takes to empty that magazine.

    You just don't know anymore.

    Too many people with too many psychological issues.

    I think I would gladly trade legal "non-permitted open carry" for legal "non-permitted concealed carry." That would end a lot of confusion. It would be a lot easier to spot the nutcase/threat trying to hide an AK or AR in his pants.

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    I would have absolutely zero problems with a law that banned open carrying of rifles. Yes it's a rabbit hole, but it may actually add more good than bad.
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