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    Louisianians believe in climate change (global warming)?

    Makes me wonder who all they polled... results seem fishy

    https://www.wwno.org/post/new-poll-m...climate-change

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    "The survey did not ask respondents whether they thought humans were the cause of climate change, but the results are in line with other recent polls."
    In surveys if you ask the right way you can come to any conclusion you want before you even start.
    I think the climate is changing too but I blame the Big Orange Ball in the sky, not my F-150.

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    I think there are so many shades of gray in this, that simplistic polls are largely useless. I personally think man made climate change is a real thing. It is obvious that we cause changes to the climate via burning things. There would be less things burning if we weren’t on the face of the earth. That said, I think our impact on climate change is grossly exaggerated(especially when “our” refers to Americans, not the entire human population). In my opinion three things are true, the first is that man made climate change is real. The second is that it’s impact on overall climate change is small. The third is that American impact on climate change is minuscule.

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    And Biden is ahead of Trump for 2020. How anyone can believe what they see and hear from the "News" today is beyond me!

    https://bipartisanreport.com/2019/04...r-a-blue-wave/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby Normal View Post
    "The survey did not ask respondents whether they thought humans were the cause of climate change, but the results are in line with other recent polls."
    In surveys if you ask the right way you can come to any conclusion you want before you even start.
    I think the climate is changing too but I blame the Big Orange Ball in the sky, not my F-150.
    2x for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I think there are so many shades of gray in this, that simplistic polls are largely useless. I personally think man made climate change is a real thing. It is obvious that we cause changes to the climate via burning things. There would be less things burning if we weren’t on the face of the earth. That said, I think our impact on climate change is grossly exaggerated(especially when *our* refers to Americans, not the entire human population). In my opinion three things are true, the first is that man made climate change is real. The second is that it’s impact on overall climate change is small. The third is that American impact on climate change is minuscule.
    I think man makes Landscape/seascape changes and ecosystem changes, and sometimes those small (relative to the planet) changes manifest in changes might show anecdotal evidence of a significant change in the climate. I don’t believe we are causing any significant warming or cooling from CO2 that will manifest in a catastrophic event. I don’t believe we should concern ourselves with Our tail pipes or cow farts, but I do believe we should do what we can to preserve the wildlife and sea life, and we made great strides in the 19th-20th centuries. Our attention should be focused on conserving those animals and the ecosystems they inhabit and quit pretending that we could cause our polar icecaps to melt into the sea.

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    One of mine....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangswitch View Post
    I think man makes Landscape/seascape changes and ecosystem changes, and sometimes those small (relative to the planet) changes manifest in changes might show anecdotal evidence of a significant change in the climate. I don’t believe we are causing any significant warming or cooling from CO2 that will manifest in a catastrophic event. I don’t believe we should concern ourselves with Our tail pipes or cow farts, but I do believe we should do what we can to preserve the wildlife and sea life, and we made great strides in the 19th-20th centuries. Our attention should be focused on conserving those animals and the ecosystems they inhabit and quit pretending that we could cause our polar icecaps to melt into the sea.
    Pretty much where I’m at, aside from very localized climate changes. It is indisputable that man has caused massive changes to the climate of small areas, especially small urban areas. Phoenix being a perfect example of this.

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    Climate change will not be one catastrophic event like in the movies. Think of the analogy as more of the frog in the boiling water. We keep increasing the heat slowly with minimal changes until such time as the water is boiling and then it is too late for the frog. Climate chagne will happen gradually and keep going until it gets to the point of no return and then it will be too late to do anything.

    The science is out there and need to start making changes before we reach the tipping point and there is no going back. Besides fuel economy helps everyone especially the pocket book. Not really a huge electric car guy because I feel that unless you are chrging strictly with renewable energy you are just shifting the carbon creation from your tail pipe to the generators the power company uses and I don't know if anyone has done a good study on if it is actually reducing the carbon footprint at all. Plus you create excessive waste with all the chemicals in the batteries.

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    The thing is, it’s pretty much a universal truth that the wealth of a population directly correlates to the level of concern with the environment. America has become much more *green* in the last two decades because of our financial ability to do so and innovations stemming from demand. The thing that will change our global impact on the environment more than anything else by far is the development of the rest of the world. The United States, specifically our development of low cost technologies, is the solution not the problem.
    Last edited by Jack; August 16th, 2019 at 08:52 AM.

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