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    More mind numbing news from Cali...

    Shoplifting under $950 is ok. The mindset of some people baffles me.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/californi...rime-statewide

    "If my babies need diapers or formula, who is going to get that for me? No one. I have to do it," she said. "They ain't out here arresting people for (shoplifting) and everyone knows it."
    Defaulting to theft vs getting a job. Perhaps if they just gave it to them? That way they wouldn’t have to steal it and everybody would feel good about it.

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    Is that per day? Per establishment? How is that state not burning to the ground? Oh wait...
    Those who live by the sword, get shot by those who don't.

    Tim

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    With respect to shoplifting under $950 being ok, it's been ok in Louisiana for a few years now. Theft under $1000 is a misdemeanor here.

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    Per incident. Organized criminal groups are taking advantage of the law robbing businesses up to $950. Pretty soon local retail stores will close leaving a gaping hole in commercial real estate. Building owners will walk away from unrentable high tax properties. And California will slide further into the Abyss of delusional progressivism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thperez1972 View Post
    With respect to shoplifting under $950 being ok, it's been ok in Louisiana for a few years now. Theft under $1000 is a misdemeanor here.
    Yes, but there is still a response from local PD when a store owner calls in a robbery. They then need to press charges correct?
    If I understand the Cali Prop correctly, if the theft is under $950, there will not be a PD response. Please set me straight if I'm going astray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTregre View Post
    Yes, but there is still a response from local PD when a store owner calls in a robbery. They then need to press charges correct?
    If I understand the Cali Prop correctly, if the theft is under $950, there will not be a PD response. Please set me straight if I'm going astray.
    I briefly looked at the prop. I didn't see anything about eliminating police response but it could be there. I think the response level would more likely be a department decision.

    https://www.courts.ca.gov/prop47.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by thperez1972 View Post
    I briefly looked at the prop. I didn't see anything about eliminating police response but it could be there. I think the response level would more likely be a department decision.

    https://www.courts.ca.gov/prop47.htm


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    I think it was on Laura Ingraham show she showed this. Said it was now a major problem that since it was enacted lots,and lots now being stolen. That they are called and trespasses and walked out the door.
    Not sure in Cali if that can legaly be done without a cop.

    My guess would be the crime of trespass would be worse than stealing now? More than one way to skin a cat.
    Like I said guess.......
    What was said is that they have bigger fish to fry.

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    Don’t troll me bro!

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    In a perfect world, when Ahmed catches a shoplifter boosting $9.50 worth of phone charger from his store, he will take said shoplifter out back and cut off his hand like they would in his home country...

    In HongKong he would be dead already...

    In Cali....thank God I don’t live in California
    Doesn’t play well with TROLLS...

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    Marksman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdump View Post
    In a perfect world, when Ahmed catches a shoplifter boosting $9.50 worth of phone charger from his store, he will take said shoplifter out back and cut off his hand like they would in his home country...

    In HongKong he would be dead already...

    In Cali....thank God I don’t live in California
    I like the Lethal Weapon line. Lol Enter the drag queen
    Those who live by the sword, get shot by those who don't.

    Tim

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    Marksman

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTregre View Post
    Yes, but there is still a response from local PD when a store owner calls in a robbery. They then need to press charges correct?
    If I understand the Cali Prop correctly, if the theft is under $950, there will not be a PD response. Please set me straight if I'm going astray.
    Apples and oranges. Robbery and shoplifting are much different. In Louisiana, shoplifting is theft, which has a high threshold before it goes from a misdemeanor to a felony. A robbery is a felony no matter what the value of the item taken. Even an attempted robbery is a felony. Theft (shoplifting) is a property crime. Robbery is a crime of violence. Most agencies (especially those who have chronic overcrowding) either issue a summons for theft or roll the perpetrator right out of jail due to overcrowding. That doesn't happen for those charged with robbery.

    This is why there is a national trend of decreasing armed robberies. Theft and identity theft reap more reward with far less risk. Combined with the proliferation of CCTV, robberies don't make as much sense to criminals. Stealing hundreds of dollars of baby formula and risking a ticket beats robbing a convenience store for $40 and getting locked up for real.
    Last edited by jsg34; November 3rd, 2019 at 10:13 AM.

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