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    DAVE_M

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    Any thoughts on Giselle's super duty rifle? Seems to be well thought out... some proprietary materials such as the carpenter 158+ steel for the bolt...

    With their current price increase, there are better options to be had.

    Geissele has had a few QC issues lately along with their backlog of orders that are long overdue, I’d shop elsewhere.
     

    DAVE_M

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    From the Trajectory Arms FB page.

    Barrels are often overgassed to compensate for loosely fitting parts. This rifle ran without a hiccup ever, but the owner complained about it running rough and getting gas in his face, unsuppressed...
    The wildly oversized gas port delivered plenty of gas to make it function despite the terrible leaks around the barrel and gas tube but the rifle was miserable to shoot and was likely shortening the lifespan of the other components.
    Theres a big difference between running and running well. Just like how your truck might run on 7 cylinders, its not exactly good to run it that way for long.
    This one is getting a new gas block and gas tube to seal up the leaks and a @blackrivertactical insert to tame it down.

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    twinin

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    From the Trajectory Arms FB page.



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    My Dad bought a POF AR-10 (not sure which one) in .308 that was unreliable. Sent it in to them and got it back a few weeks later running reliably but just like you said above. They opened up the gas port, and it ran but the impulse was weird. I know it's hard for them to find that balance that will work for everyone, but it was not really a cheap rifle. He wound up selling and moving on from it.
     

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    My Dad bought a POF AR-10 (not sure which one) in .308 that was unreliable. Sent it in to them and got it back a few weeks later running reliably but just like you said above. They opened up the gas port, and it ran but the impulse was weird. I know it's hard for them to find that balance that will work for everyone, but it was not really a cheap rifle. He wound up selling and moving on from it.

    What happens is the manufacturer will have their set specifications so that all the parts "should" work together. Sometimes you encounter tolerance stacking and sometimes you encounter bad quality control. Opening up the gas port should be the last thing anyone does. I'm surprised they did it. You can overgas a rifle and it will function, but as the post above shows, it won't run well.
     

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    Reason #398523582 why you should always check headspace when assembling a rifle, installing a new barrel, installing a new bolt, or swapping bolts.

    Case detonated with what appears to be short headspace. Primer blew out and the case head failed. Extractor snapped in half, bolt cracked, and the rest of the case is stuck in the chamber. Owner said he didn't check headspace.

    First major malfunction. But this is why budget builds are a complete waste of time and money. (my first AR build) This is an AR Stoner BCG I've been having trouble with. Extractor pin snapped during a class, I replaced it and I was testing it out again today. Ripped through 90 rounds of cheap steel wolf, first round of American Eagle, blew the primer out, snapped my extractor in half. I collapsed my stock and mortered the bolt loose, cracking the minimalist stock. I flicked out the piece of extractor and now I can't get the casing out, to take down the rifle. I'm about to ATF destroy this pile and start over.

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    DAVE_M

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    If anyone is interested, there is a home built illegal SBR in the classifieds for sale.
     

    shrxfn

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    How does anyone know it’s an ILLEGAL SBR?

    It looks like a 14.5in barrel and there is no pinned and welded muzzle device on it making it a legal rifle without a stamp. You can see where they tried to hide that there was no muzzle device on the barrel with the sig box.
    If it was legal it would have to go through a FFL03(?) at least and the person buying it would have to get a tax stamp to take ownership. Although seeing as the lower has to be engraved with the info of the owner of the stamp I am not sure how that would work. Would you have to have the original engraving erased somehow and the new stamp owner added........Never checked into that as I am not giving up my SBRs.
     

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    Just like any gun its about the purpose of the firearm for that individual. We are all proud of our guns because we each have invested our precious commodity for it. Some have more of it than others. If I'm a person that is only really looking for battle field accuracy,just wanting to hit a body size target at 100 yds. do you need to spend 2 grand on your gun.... no, I don't think so. But maybe MOA is your focus and you want to hit a dime at 100... ok sure... your gonna need to spend more money though. *Shrug* There's always another side of that coin.
     

    shrxfn

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    If I am able to put all my shots in a USPSA target A zone then I am happy I don't need one hole accuracy.

    Besides with all the caffeine I drink I shake like the paint mixers at hardware stores so I ain't getting .5 MOA anyways....

    Also Dave I put all of my castle nuts on backwards yo. I like to be counter revolutionary and go against the flow....... Plus I get to use my sledgehammer to make bigger staking dimples to fill the hole.........:rofl:
     
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