Louisiana, we have a new Constitutional Carry Bill!

RaleighReloader · Mar 2, 2020

DAVE_M said:
Since you consider them both solvable problems, what is your proposal to still allow for the NICS bypass and reciprocity of other states without having a CHP due to Constitutional Carry?

I was objecting to "enhanced CHP." If we want to keep the current CHP system (with Constitutional Carry in place), then so be it.

Mike

DAVE_M · Mar 2, 2020

RaleighReloader said:
I was objecting to "enhanced CHP." If we want to keep the current CHP system (with Constitutional Carry in place), then so be it.

Mike

What is there to object?

nolayota · Mar 3, 2020

DAILY REMINDER BUMP:

HB72 is no more. Rep McCormick has reintroduced constitutional carry as HB686. Link below.

http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/BillInfo.aspx?s=20rs&b=HB686&sbi=y

Please contact your representative and ask that they support HB686. You can find your rep at the link below.

https://legis.la.gov/Legis/FindMyLegislators.aspx

HB686 has been referred to the House Administration of Criminal Justice Committee. The last time Constitutional Carry came up, it died in committee. We need to speak with the committee members and demand that they pass the bill. Committee members are listed in the link below.

http://house.louisiana.gov/H_Cmtes/CriminalJustice.aspx

Louisiana Shooting Association's annual meeting is Sunday at Cabela's. I don't see anything on their social media in support of the bill. Should we show up to the meeting and make them aware of it? Does anyone have a contact inside LSA?

https://louisianashooting.com/

*Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.*

-Ronald Reagan

AZ2VET · Mar 3, 2020

Is there something setup that by just entering our name and maybe address would send an prewritten email to the 15 committee members as well as our Baton Rough House and senate reps? That would probably get a lot more voices heard rather than us not so savy types having to send 17 emails that would probably not be so well worded.

Emperor · Mar 3, 2020

nolayota said:
DAILY REMINDER BUMP:

HB72 is no more. Rep McCormick has reintroduced constitutional carry as HB686. Link below.

http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/BillInfo.aspx?s=20rs&b=HB686&sbi=y

Please contact your representative and ask that they support HB686. You can find your rep at the link below.

https://legis.la.gov/Legis/FindMyLegislators.aspx

HB686 has been referred to the House Administration of Criminal Justice Committee. The last time Constitutional Carry came up, it died in committee. We need to speak with the committee members and demand that they pass the bill. Committee members are listed in the link below.

http://house.louisiana.gov/H_Cmtes/CriminalJustice.aspx

Louisiana Shooting Association's annual meeting is Sunday at Cabela's. I don't see anything on their social media in support of the bill. Should we show up to the meeting and make them aware of it? Does anyone have a contact inside LSA?

https://louisianashooting.com/

The Louisiana Shooters Association is NOT the problem! It is the Louisiana "Sheriff's" Association that torpedoes these Bills (they don't want us to have), behind the scenes. Committee meetings (concerning firearms laws), are where all the chicanery takes place at the behest of the Louisiana Sheriff's Association.

Now, that said; there is a Republican majority on the House Judiciary Committee. If it passes there, then look up the make up of the Senate Judiciary Committee. If the L"Sheriff's"A wants it killed, it will die in one of those 2 Committees. Even if there is a heavy Republican majority in both; some of them will find a way not to be there for the vote (at least enough of them to blow past the democrats "rubber stamp" objection), or some other nonsense.

nolayota · Mar 3, 2020

Emperor said:
The Louisiana Shooters Association is NOT the problem! It is the Louisiana "Sheriff's" Association that torpedoes these Bills (they don't want us to have), behind the scenes. Committee meetings (concerning firearms laws), are where all the chicanery takes place at the behest of the Louisiana Sheriff's Association.

Now, that said; there is a Republican majority on the House Judiciary Committee. If it passes there, then look up the make up of the Senate Judiciary Committee. If the L"Sheriff's"A wants it killed, it will die in one of those 2 Committees. Even if there is a heavy Republican majority in both; some of them will find a way not to be there for the vote (at least enough of them to blow past the democrats "rubber stamp" objection), or some other nonsense.

Not saying LS(hooters)A is a problem, but potentially a good friend to have in this fight, considering that they're an NRA affiliate. Is this the kind of thing they do?

Does anyone have any good info on the Louisiana Sheriff's Association? Who's in charge there? Who should we talk to?

Sheriffs are elected officials. If they oppose the will of their constituents, then there should be repercussions. We need to find out who at LSA decides their stance on constitutional carry. We can convince them to side with us. If they refuse to support us, we can publish a list of Sheriffs who need to be voted out of office.

nolayota · Mar 3, 2020

https://www.lsa.org/public/execcommittee.aspx

Here's the Executive Committee of the Louisiana Sheriff's Association.

If you live in one of the following Parishes, your Sheriff is in charge of the LSA. Please click the link, contact your Sheriff, and ask his stance on Constitutional Carry.

Bossier
Livingston
Iberville
Franklin
Lafourche

These Sheriffs are your employees. You hired them and you can fire them. Please tell them the job you want done.

dwhaley929 · Mar 3, 2020

I haven't read the whole thread but wanted to mention that the sheriffs offices make $$$ on fingerprint cards (not all charge a fee), the state makes $$$ on the application and lots of folks make money on the required training. I think that's what usually kills bills in LA.

RaleighReloader · Mar 3, 2020

nolayota said:
Not saying LS(hooters)A is a problem, but potentially a good friend to have in this fight, considering that they're an NRA affiliate. Is this the kind of thing they do?

In theory this is what the NRA is supposed to do. In reality they're not reliable on the best of days, and have sold out gun owners at various points in the past.

I didn't see much of a presence from the Louisiana Shooters Association at the legislature last year. Which isn't to say that they weren't there (I wasn't taking attendance every day). The Home Defense Foundation seemed to be far more effective in getting warm bodies to committee meetings.

nolayota said:
Sheriffs are elected officials. If they oppose the will of their constituents, then there should be repercussions. We need to find out who at LSA decides their stance on constitutional carry. We can convince them to side with us. If they refuse to support us, we can publish a list of Sheriffs who need to be voted out of office.

You're on the right track there. If the Louisiana Sheriffs Association is objecting to a pro-2A bill, then we need to loudly call them out, and get Sheriffs on the record as denouncing these anti-2A stances. As you suggested, this is best done during election years for them. As for the LSA itself ... they're just an organization. We use them when they're useful to us and we throw them under a bus when they're not.

Mike

nolayota · Mar 4, 2020

DAILY REMINDER BUMP:

HB72 is no more. Rep McCormick has reintroduced constitutional carry as HB686. Link below.

http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/BillInfo.aspx?s=20rs&b=HB686&sbi=y

Please contact your representative and ask that they support HB686. You can find your rep at the link below.

https://legis.la.gov/Legis/FindMyLegislators.aspx

HB686 has been referred to the House Administration of Criminal Justice Committee. The last time Constitutional Carry came up, it died in committee. We need to speak with the committee members and demand that they pass the bill. Committee members are listed in the link below.

http://house.louisiana.gov/H_Cmtes/CriminalJustice.aspx

Louisiana Shooting Association's annual meeting is Sunday at Cabela's. They're our local NRA affiliate. Show up and ask them to support Constitutional Carry.

https://louisianashooting.com/

Louisiana Sheriff's Association has historically opposed Constitutional Carry. Contact your Sheriff and tell him to support it.
If you live in one of the following Parishes, your Sheriff is in on the LSA Executive Committee.

Bossier
Livingston
Iberville
Franklin
Lafourche

*Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.*

-Ronald Reagan

Emperor · Mar 5, 2020

nolayota said:
https://www.lsa.org/public/execcommittee.aspx

Here's the Executive Committee of the Louisiana Sheriff's Association.

If you live in one of the following Parishes, your Sheriff is in charge of the LSA. Please click the link, contact your Sheriff, and ask his stance on Constitutional Carry.

Bossier
Livingston
Iberville
Franklin
Lafourche

These Sheriffs are your employees. You hired them and you can fire them. Please tell them the job you want done.

So here is a litmus test for this Constitutional Carry Bill.

By this time, (I promise), they all know this Bill is on the horizon. If they haven't made the call to kill it in committee already, then a reputable journalist (preferably with a pro-gun mindset), should get them on record BEFORE the session starts and ask them if they would stand in the way of this getting to the Chamber Floors for a vote.

Once you take it out of these Committees, then a semblance of real democracy goes in to play.

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