I agree. It didn't take long for it to turn into what the police should or shouldn't be doing. When a department specs out a vehicle for bid, they specify rear wheel drive. Not many rear wheel dive vehicles left.
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I agree. It didn't take long for it to turn into what the police should or shouldn't be doing. When a department specs out a vehicle for bid, they specify rear wheel drive. Not many rear wheel dive vehicles left.
Bangswitch
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Disagree one you used the word crime as if I’m expecting the police to handicap themselves at fighting crime. All I asking is not use covert tactics to punish people for minor infractions because it will create an opportunity for bad people to take advantage of vulnerable people.
Bangswitch
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You are correct but would you tolerate the atmos people driving nondescript vehicles or not wearing a high vis shirt that says meter reader?
Bangswitch
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Perez help me out. This is the story as I remember it but I was a causal observer in the area. Here’s how I remember the story.
After Katarina some NOPD police uniforms were stolen. If I remember correctly all of NOPD stopped wearing a certain color. It was years before that color was reinstated.
Mu memory sucks so help me where I fell down.
After Katarina some NOPD police uniforms were stolen. If I remember correctly all of NOPD stopped wearing a certain color. It was years before that color was reinstated.
Mu memory sucks so help me where I fell down.
Bangswitch
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Perez help me out. This is the story as I remember it but I was a causal observer in the area. Here’s how I remember the story.
After Katarina some NOPD police uniforms were stolen. If I remember correctly all of NOPD stopped wearing a certain color. It was years before that color was reinstated.
Mu memory sucks so help me where I fell down.
After Katarina some NOPD police uniforms were stolen. If I remember correctly all of NOPD stopped wearing a certain color. It was years before that color was reinstated.
Mu memory sucks so help me where I fell down.
GunRelated
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Meter readers job isn't to protect and serve the community nor does it allow them to take money out of pockets for traffic violations. Total different level of but I get what your sayin.
Look, I can't tell you the last time I've been pulled over, I don't drive like an *******. That doesn't change how I feel when I see others being pulled over by an unmarked for traffic violations. It just burns. It is a step in the wrong direction from protect and serve to big brother feelings.
Allegedly a bunch of uniforms were stolen out of a dry cleaners and they decided the uniform needed to be changed. I’m sure since the feds were picking up the bill that may have had an added influence on that move. We changed uniforms and after I left to seek employment elsewhere, they went back to the traditional uniform.
Oh, my one uniform at the dry cleaner was on the second floor and I managed to get it back a few months later.
There were many NOPD myths after Katrina. Don’t believe all of them.
Oh, some pics...
Bangswitch
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It’s also worth noting that it’s not compulsory for you to stop and interact with an Atmos guy so the risk for a fake Atmos guy may be greater in frequency but no where near the severity of a fake police officer.
I know what you're asking and it's a stupid request. The net effect would less effective police which would likely lead to an increase in crime. The bad people would not miraculously turn good. They would move on to other vulnerable people. And since you took away the not so easily detected police cars, the police would have lost that tactic to catch them. Your solution is a bad one. By expecting the police to get rid of unmarked cars you're expecting them to use less effective methods. That's handicapping themselves.
Bangswitch
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Allegedly a bunch of uniforms were stolen out of a dry cleaners and they decided the uniform needed to be changed. I’m sure since the feds were picking up the bill that may have had an added influence on that move. We changed uniforms and after I left to seek employment elsewhere, they went back to the traditional uniform.
Oh, my one uniform at the dry cleaner was on the second floor and I managed to get it back a few months later.
There were many NOPD myths after Katrina. Don’t believe all of them.
Oh, some pics...
So do you believe the alleged theft of the uniforms influenced the change? Because that was what I was getting at.
It is good to know my memory matched up pretty well with the widely told story even if it might have been a touch exaggerated.
Bangswitch
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Stop referring to traffic violations as crime it’s not a crime. Covert traffic enforcement isn’t fighting crime. Sure you may get a dirtbag off the streets by incident of a traffic stop, but saying not using unmarked cars for the explicit purpose of catching traffic violations is handicapping you in your quest to fight crime is disingenuous.
riverrat66
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Sounds like you audited that place called ticketfaw.
Bangswitch
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Just because you only see a speeder or a line cutter stopped by an unmarked unit does not mean that's all they do. Removing the unmarked from the street removes them from the street. And you can't say "just pull over the really bad one" because you don't know the bad ones until after they are pulled over. And as was pointed out, you can be arrested for traffic violations.
The official NOPD shirt is also a bus driver shirt. You can find them or something similar enough by searching for "bus driver uniform shirts blue." Since you can buy them now, I doubt the theft of the uniform shirts then was a factor. It was more likely the department needed new uniforms fast and the ones they got were ones the feds were willing to pay for.
https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/bus-driver-shirt-18716168662.html
http://www.imagefirstuniforms.com/atc/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=257
Huh? You must have confirmation bias. There are plenty of home invasions that start with impersonating a utility worker. I would bet that happens much more frequently than impersonating an officer. Just about everyone in a neighborhood has the same cable or energy company. And most people don't know all of the FedEx and UPS workers who are assigned to their city. And unlike the fake police who stop you on the street, once the fake utility worker makes it in the house, he has the vulnerable victim isolated from the rest of the world.
SouthernUnderGod
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About three weeks ago my wife and I were traveling to Houston. There were four “ghost” troopers working the area between Grosse Tête and the Atchafalaya bridges: 2 Tahoes and 2 Chargers. At the time they had pulled over 2 different out of state-ers.
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