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  1. #671
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    Is it possible they weighed their options and they could be in worse shape if they didn't take a stand? There would likely be a financial burden either way they went.

  2. #672
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    Quote Originally Posted by thperez1972 View Post
    Is it possible they weighed their options and they could be in worse shape if they didn't take a stand? There would likely be a financial burden either way they went.
    They weighed their options and broadcasted they were fighting the man. Iím sure they also knew they could throw up a go fund me and people would throw money at them because they were fighting the man. Iím well aware of this but was wondering what others thought. Itís clear you donít have a problem with it. Just wondering If anyone else sees this as the new norm as Dave said.


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  3. #673
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOTOR51 View Post
    They weighed their options and broadcasted they were fighting the man. I’m sure they also knew they could throw up a go fund me and people would throw money at them because they were fighting the man. I’m well aware of this but was wondering what others thought. It’s clear you don’t have a problem with it. Just wondering If anyone else sees this as the new norm as Dave said.


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    I've seen it from a few people on both sides of almost every issue in the past two years.

    Think of it like the NRA. They will fight for what is right, but they need your money to pay for it.

  4. #674
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAVE_M View Post
    I've seen it from a few people on both sides of almost every issue in the past two years.

    Think of it like the NRA. They will fight for what is right, but they need your money to pay for it.
    Yep, and from what Iíve read the NRA wasnít very responsible with the donations


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  5. #675
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    The biggest problem with "standing up to the man" is the "man" has limitless cash resources in which to fight back.

    Now, she claims that she has done everything by the guidelines of the mandate. She claims there is a medical exception clause to opt out of wearing the masks. Don't know, couldn't care less. Not sure how every one that works there needs a medical exception?!?

    To adjudicate this, will cost her a lot more than she thinks, which is another disadvantage to "taking on the man!" I would think that she has an attorney, and I would hope that he/she would have looked at the mandate, and guidelines, and given this woman sound advice on whether she should proceed.

    So, to some degree, I believe that government should be able to battle back if they too believe the end justifies the means. But, if they are out to prove a point, or be an arrogant narcissist, like Sharon Weston Broome in her quest to punish the people who have democratically elected to start there own city in St. George, then the taxpayers are taking it in the a$$ to fund this knucklehead's revenge. That is garbage, and a slap in the face of the people. I hope Edwards isn't riding on that train.
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  6. #676
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    For me personally if I want a business to stand up and violate these various ever changing rules that have unilaterally been imposed then I have to be willing to help however I can. So I’ve certainly been voting with my wallet.

    Now going out of your way to pick a fight that you may win but will leave you worse off is not the smartest tactic, but telling your customers that you will stand up on your hind legs and not participate in the nonsense is commendable.

    The problem is our country has become overrun with power hungry narcissists from coast to coast and since we have a two party system that really doesn’t ever provide any real choice we have two options if we want to regain any so-called freedom. 1. Violent revolution (bad idea really bad idea), or 2. We can practice civil disobedience and force the hands of those who believe themselves autocrats. They will either back down or bow up.

    Please don’t misunderstand this isn’t a call for violence or even a call for protest that would set up a confrontation, I’m saying ignore the SOB’s (the best you can) and live your life and patronize those who will do the same. And if they end up needing some help it’s not necessarily them being a mooch. Remember we must hang together or we will most certainly hang separately. - Franklin (likely butchered a little)
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  7. #677
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOTOR51 View Post
    The original reason was because it was causing health problems from their employees breathing their own exhaled carbon monoxide . Doctors and nurses have been wearing them for decades while doing their job and seem to do fine.
    Taking this snippet to go a different direction from that post.

    I donít understand all this ďmedically canít wear a maskĒ crap. So, you worried about reinhaling carbon dioxide that you exhaled? (Not you actually, motor but you figuratively) But your airways are already full of exhaled air that you are re-inhaling deeper anyway. People sure donít have a problem snorkeling, reinhaling a larger volume of air that. Your body will adjust as long as the volume isnít the major part of what youíre inhaling, and the added volume of whatís behind the mask is small compared to even whatís in your airways. So small that your bodyís natural breathing trigger will adjust for it. You might take an extra breath or two every minute? All that said, if you really are so struggled or labored in your breathing that a thin piece of filter media will interfere enough to put you into medical distress, do you really think you should even be out and about during an outbreak of a virus that will take away from even what little breathing ability you have left? Donít give me that bullshit. Just come out and say you donít want to. Iíd respect that more than some cockamamie excuse.

    As far as the ďthe oxygen level drops too lowĒ crap. I did the test myself at work. Only the n95 masks and only after exhaling did it drop lower than whatís considered dangerous. Immediately upon starting to inhale, that number went right back up. So I ran a 1 minute average using normal breathing and the average 02 was within acceptable limits. (I had to seriously shorten the sample tube to get the results to come quickly enough and track breathing).

    They shoulda just said that a mask would foil the facial recognition cameras. Wouldníta been an issue then lol.
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    Well, well, well. CDC finally admits that of those that have fatally succumbed to the CCP Virus, over 90% (some estimates say as much as 94%), had "multiple" co-morbidity issues BEFORE they contracted the virus. I also heard yesterday, that the of that 90%, each person had an average of 2.6 co-morbid conditions.

    So, we are to believe that they just came up with these statistics? This is yet another reason why the news media (particularly those who identify as liberal douche outlets), and those media outlet wannabe's, can NEVER be trusted.
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    Wonder how many of the co-morbidities were car wrecks, GSWs, knife wounds, etc?
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  10. #680
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor View Post
    Well, well, well. CDC finally admits that of those that have fatally succumbed to the CCP Virus, over 90% (some estimates say as much as 94%), had "multiple" co-morbidity issues BEFORE they contracted the virus. I also heard yesterday, that the of that 90%, each person had an average of 2.6 co-morbid conditions.

    So, we are to believe that they just came up with these statistics? This is yet another reason why the news media (particularly those who identify as liberal douche outlets), and those media outlet wannabe's, can NEVER be trusted.
    So given this new info, the best course of action is to double down on the mask restrictions.

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