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  1. #1
    Marksman

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    ATF rules Q Honey Badger pistol an SBR

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...st-letter/amp/


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    enthusiast

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    This will be the first step in the downfall of a "pistol brace"
    Stephen

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    We are the hammer

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    FYI there's another thread about the same thing here - https://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/...-stock-Round-2

    I'll say the same thing I said in there. The images on the official Q Instagram show no pictures of the pistol brace being used as an actual brace. There are quite a few images and some videos of the pistol brace being up against shoulders. If the ATF was going after pistol braces, I imagine they would be sending letters to a ton of companies. To my knowledge, this is an isolated case, so it makes more sense to me that they see how Q markets their pistols and are going after them.

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    Donít troll me bro!

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    I’ll just copy paste my reply to the other thread:
    Petty
    Stupid
    Senseless
    Hype


    https://youtu.be/tlMz2sCDCA4

    If the firearm is not being operated in a careless or dangerous manner, how does the ATF think they can dictate how you hold it? What’s next? Telling us what we can or can’t say? Or what we can or can’t think? Or eat or drink? Oh wait, New York has that covered already huh.
    At the end of the day it all boils down to one thing: SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

    They want us to believe that the government was formed to govern us...

    As to the title of this thread, the ATF does not write law, and even if they could, they can’t skip the process of how laws are written. I take it none of them ever watched the Schoolhouse rock cartoons...

    https://youtu.be/tyeJ55o3El0

    If I owned and operated Q, I’d just send the ATF that video as my reply...
    Last edited by Magdump; October 7th, 2020 at 05:50 AM.
    Doesnít play well with TROLLS...

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    Shooter

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    Quote Originally Posted by noob View Post
    This will be the first step in the downfall of a "pistol brace"
    Q was notified by the ATF 8-3-20 to cease and desist concerning their Honey Badger pistol. So in 2 months after, I haven't heard or read of any other manufacturer receiving a cease and desist letter concerning AR pistols with braces. Don't you think if the ATF was going after AR15 pistols with braces, other manufacturers/assemblers would too have received ATF cease and desist letters? No one else in 60+ days?

    I mean it seems like a common sense deduction to me.
    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." -- George Santayana

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    Sic semper tyrannis

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    I bet it will get over turned especially since no other mfgs have been called out since Q got the notification letter in August. .....makes you wonder if Q did something to piss off someone in the alphabet crew or something.
    Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.

    I like guns because they're f*cking awesome.

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    Marksman

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    Could just be the first domino to fall. What if Q fights back saying, * why isn’t the alphabet boys going after all the others*? The feds might let Q set off the firestorm. Just a theory. Then the feds could say they knew nothing about the others till Q brought it to their attention.
    Those who live by the sword, get shot by those who don't.

    Tim

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    Sic semper tyrannis

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    Watch "ATF vs. PISTOL BRACES, AGAIN! - The Fight For Gun Rights!" on YouTube
    https://youtu.be/gCpUdKf9TmY

    Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.

    I like guns because they're f*cking awesome.

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    Marksman

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcm192 View Post
    Watch "ATF vs. PISTOL BRACES, AGAIN! - The Fight For Gun Rights!" on YouTube
    https://youtu.be/gCpUdKf9TmY

    amen brother!!!! glad we still got some good guys up there

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    We are the hammer

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    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/sb...badger-ruling/

    SB Tactical is standing with them which makes sense. There's plenty of talk that the pistol brace is also an issue because it extends too far to be used as a brace and has a place to rest your cheek. I don't own one so can't say for sure.

    This video shows someone using it with the pistol brace without it being extended. Not sure how far it goes when extended but I imagine it'd be pretty close to where your elbow bends.

    https://youtu.be/aNYYKrZNLmM?t=268

    This part of the video has it extended next to his arm to give an idea.

    https://youtu.be/aNYYKrZNLmM?t=254

    Guess we'll see what the ATF does next but if Biden gets elected things are gonna get crazy
    Last edited by Bosco; October 7th, 2020 at 12:30 PM.

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