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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator 45/70 View Post
    Hmmm, Don't know about those,The ones I looked at briefly belonged to a prison guard up in Wasilla Ak,They were black with a sharpened point.

    His ex-wife was having a Heaintpaidchildsuppotandalimony sale out of the garage...We bought 5 firearms at a decent price too,I walked away from the ammo !
    Might have been Black Talons. They were discontinued almost before they hit the market. That was only because the anti-gunners thought they were armor piercing (though they weren't) and campaigned to be rid of them. You would be hard-pressed to find some now, since they have been off the market since the early 90s.

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarcMac View Post
    Might have been Black Talons. They were discontinued almost before they hit the market. That was only because the anti-gunners thought they were armor piercing (though they weren't) and campaigned to be rid of them. You would be hard-pressed to find some now, since they have been off the market since the early 90s.
    The gang bangers loved the name black talon and used them . I remember Kupp ( clinton's surgeon general) pushed hard to get them and every other hollow point outlawed . The reasons given were that they caused erreprable damage to tissue and that the sharp edges often cut the surgeons gloves subjecting them to aids and other diseases the patient may have . If I remember correctly winchester voluntarily dropped the black talon but still sold the same bullet with out the evil black coating and evil name .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozarkpugs View Post
    The gang bangers loved the name black talon and used them . I remember Kupp ( clinton's surgeon general) pushed hard to get them and every other hollow point outlawed . The reasons given were that they caused erreprable damage to tissue and that the sharp edges often cut the surgeons gloves subjecting them to aids and other diseases the patient may have . If I remember correctly winchester voluntarily dropped the black talon but still sold the same bullet with out the evil black coating and evil name .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator 45/70 View Post
    I've always heard pistol ''perpetrator'' ammo was banned,If true I don't know when?

    But then again story's of ''mobsters'' drilling out the tips of pistol ammo and filling it with mercury and sealing the tip with wax was basically an exploding round when it hit flesh and bone...that is supposedly banned too?
    Go ahead. Fill a lead bullet with mercury and see what happens. Even better, load that lead bullet in an aluminum case.

    Chemistry 101 Some metals don't play well together.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozarkpugs View Post
    It is illegal if what you put in it is combustible / explosive . Primers up front are a no no .

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    IIRC correctly, there is a limit to the amount of charge one can load in a projectile.
    I tried to google a source to reinforce my memory, but was unable to find one.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozarkpugs View Post
    The 44 mag. exploders were a lot of fun . I always found it interesting how the empty jacket had the primer cup welded to the center of it . Of course when a wacko tried to kill our president with a failed design , 22 version of the exploders they all were outlawed . Definitely would not be something I would want to put in a magizine fed gun .



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    Quote Originally Posted by DBMJR1 View Post
    Go ahead. Fill a lead bullet with mercury and see what happens. Even better, load that lead bullet in an aluminum case.

    Chemistry 101 Some metals don't play well together.


    IIRC correctly, there is a limit to the amount of charge one can load in a projectile.
    I tried to google a source to reinforce my memory, but was unable to find one.



    It was a small piece of shrapnel from one of those that almost killed Reagan.
    They were effective in that instance.
    Do it yourself man! Do you think mercury is sold across the counter, Go ask to buy some....See how far that gets ya !
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBMJR1 View Post
    Go ahead. Fill a lead bullet with mercury and see what happens. Even better, load that lead bullet in an aluminum case.

    Chemistry 101 Some metals don't play well together.


    IIRC correctly, there is a limit to the amount of charge one can load in a projectile.
    I tried to google a source to reinforce my memory, but was unable to find one.



    It was a small piece of shrapnel from one of those that almost killed Reagan.
    They were effective in that instance.
    Would you please share the source of that information . The punk was using a 22 and the information I read said they did not explode but stayed intact and the doctors were worried removing them would cause an explosion . Of course that is not how they work but surgeons aren't usually trained in explosives .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBMJR1 View Post
    Go ahead. Fill a lead bullet with mercury and see what happens. Even better, load that lead bullet in an aluminum case.

    Chemistry 101 Some metals don't play well together.


    IIRC correctly, there is a limit to the amount of charge one can load in a projectile.
    I tried to google a source to reinforce my memory, but was unable to find one.



    It was a small piece of shrapnel from one of those that almost killed Reagan.
    They were effective in that instance.
    I believe the bullets you are talking about with the limited amount of compound allowed are not for handgun use . Also some states say no to any exploders period .

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    IIRC correctly, there is a limit to the amount of charge one can load in a projectile.
    I tried to google a source to reinforce my memory, but was unable to find one.


    At one time the ATF defined "1 oz or more" as a destructive projectile.

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