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    Ammo in stock here

    Looks like these guys have a lot of variety in stock. Iíve never ordered from them, but the reviews are good, ship in 1-2 days.
    Yes theyíre asking more than we are used to paying but less than prices Iíve been seeing for in stock ammo. If you donít need ammo please ignore the post. If you wanna secure some now and stop worrying about tomorrow, these are low going rate prices compared to what Iím seeing and itís ready to ship. If I thought the prices and availability were going back to normal next month I wouldnít have posted.



    https://www.outdoorlimited.com/handg...By=8&mode=list
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    https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-5...israel-militar

    In stock at the moment, IMI 855 for 65 cents per round plus $14 shipping on 500 rounds, $16 shipping on 1000 rounds
    Last edited by Magdump; October 27th, 2020 at 01:30 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdump View Post
    https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-5...israel-militar

    In stock at the moment, IMI 855 for 65 cents per round plus $14 shipping on 500 rounds, $16 shipping on 1000 rounds
    I purchased 10 boxes of the IMI 855 (their limit) from sgammo just 5 days ago, and it arrived in 3 days. SGammo has been one of my go tos for a few years now. They charge shipping but no taxes. Very reasonable shipping charges too. They will auto notify you via ur email when a particular item is back in stock. Family owned.

    I also purchased 210 rounds of M855 A1 which is like next to impossible to find for the public/civilians. I read an article on line that M855 A1 costs our government $6 a round. I sure hope that is bad info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_ View Post
    I purchased 10 boxes of the IMI 855 (their limit) from sgammo just 5 days ago, and it arrived in 3 days. SGammo has been one of my go tos for a few years now. They charge shipping but no taxes. Very reasonable shipping charges too. They will auto notify you via ur email when a particular item is back in stock. Family owned.

    I also purchased 210 rounds of M855 A1 which is like next to impossible to find for the public/civilians. I read an article on line that M855 A1 costs our government $6 a round. I sure hope that is bad info.
    You’ll enjoy the IMI John. That Israeli stuff is on par with LC. I’ve blasted through a couple thousand rounds of it.
    Are you using the M855A1 loads in a shorter barreled gun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdump View Post
    You’ll enjoy the IMI John. That Israeli stuff is on par with LC. I’ve blasted through a couple thousand rounds of it.
    Are you using the M855A1 loads in a shorter barreled gun?
    I may use it in anything from 10.5 to 16". I'm thinking stagger loading mags with SP ammo. I did a lot of reading on the m855A1 and its a pretty big improvement over m855. Reviewers and the military refer to it as "barrier blind". It will penetrate cinder blocks better (with distance limits) and injure, personal armor, and zip thru car/truck doors and windshields like no tomorrow. And its term performance in flesh is better than m855. Our military adopted it in like 2010 and designed from day one for the M4 barrel length. They were unhappy with m855 term performance on bad guys in combat. Info says its slightly hotter than the 855 in pressures, an improved charge powder was developed. Only negative I read is the military reports the steel penetrator tip has gouged or damaged some feed ramps after many rounds. And higher operating pressures/recoil impulse takes a greater long term toll on bolts. If ya have a SHTF or defensive weapon, you might as well load it with the best possible ammo you can procure imo.

    https://www.army.mil/article/48657/e...formance_round

    https://www.defensereview.com/m855a1...ust-overblown/

    Yeah, I have IMI 556 ammo I purchased 10+ years ago. IMI is good. Not much the Israelies make is poor really. Weapons, sights, ammo.
    Last edited by John_; October 27th, 2020 at 08:28 AM.
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    FYI, M855A1 is not available to civilians, so if you have some, it *fell off a truck.*

    Also, don’t shoot it in anything you care about. It’s going to destroy the upper’s feed ramps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAVE_M View Post
    FYI, M855A1 is not available to civilians, so if you have some, it *fell off a truck.*

    Also, don’t shoot it in anything you care about. It’s going to destroy the upper’s feed ramps.
    Yes, I am aware of this. See my post just above yours.

    Our military has been using M855A1 since 2010, and that has not changed. Overall, they are very pleased with it.
    Last edited by John_; October 27th, 2020 at 08:35 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_ View Post
    Yes, I am aware of this. See my post just above yours.

    Our military has been using M855A1 since 2010, and that has not changed. Overall, they are very pleased with it.
    I missed it on the first go around.

    Outside of shooting at distance, I wouldn’t bother with it.

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    From the second article I linked above: https://www.defensereview.com/m855a1...ust-overblown/

    "With the availability of M855A1 to civilians being very limited, the chance of the average civilian shooter getting ahold of enough M855A1 to perhaps cause some damage is a non-issue right now, in my opinion. The one positive from this I can see being useful for everyone is that magazines that load higher up the feed ramp can be more reliable."

    Gen 3 Pmags are improved and offer a better stripped round angle from the mag, reducing or eliminating the damage from M855A1.

    Another quote:

    "Out of all the magazines I checked, the best for having the highest clearance, both left and right feed, was the military issue Enhanced Performance Magazine (fully clearing the feed ramp on the left side, two thirds of the way up on the right), followed by the Gen III PMAG and Israeli Military Industries Defense magazine. There was no real difference between the GEN III PMAG and the IMI Defense mag. Both seemed to load the rounds just as high as the other.

    Next, loading rounds to what appeared to be at least halfway up the feed ramps was a three-way tie between the GEN II Lancer L5 AWM, the Military Improved Magazine, and the GEN II PMAG. It should be noted that during the time I was active duty and shooting M855A1 with my team, the two most prevalent magazines used in the unit were GEN II PMAGs and the Improved mag, as they were both issued by the unit.

    The last group sat the lowest against the feed ramps. They were the Army mag with green follower, the BCM aluminum mag, the C Products Defense mag, and USGI mag with black follower. So, if one is concerned about feed ramp issues and M855A1, I would stay away from these magazines, since the tips of the rounds had the most contact with their feed ramps."

    "What about damaged feed ramps or receivers? Not a single one. *Ok, but how much M855A1 did you actually shoot?* Great question. I can tell you that over a period of two years I’d estimate I shot at least 3,000 rounds of it through two different uppers, a MK18 and a M4A1, both suppressed and un-suppressed, all while using the same lower receiver. During that time, those same uppers also saw at least a thousand rounds of MK262 and a few thousand rounds of M855 green tip."

    This article (quotes) was written by Jeff Gurwitch (19 years in Special Forces, 26 years total mil service) who has combat duty experience in Afghanistan (2 years), and actual hands on experience with M855A1 ammo, not just some guy on an internet forum. Gurwitch now shoots competitions and writes for two magazines.



    Notice the BCM mags finish poorly.
    Last edited by John_; October 29th, 2020 at 04:35 AM. Reason: added additional critical info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_ View Post
    Notice the BCM mags finish poorly.
    Judging by your comments here and elsewhere, I’m not sure what you have against BCM, but those mags are not made by BCM. They are D&H mags.

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