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  1. #11
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    You're welcome. Not sure if the data is helpful to anyone but I always find data and statistics interesting.

    There's a lot of data here - https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/nics - and I'm trying to find other useful pdf's.

    A lot of it is interesting but they don't really break down the data well. For instance, this pdf will show you how many denials they've had grouped by the reason but the data isn't separated month to month. https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...nials.pdf/view. This one will show you record months. There's a lot in 2020! https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...weeks.pdf/view. I was hoping to find some data that showed how many were a first time buyer but can't find an actual PDF for that.

    I have to imagine they don't know if the sale actually went through or not as the person could decide not to buy the gun after the background check passes. All they can do is track what the check was requested for and report on that.

    It is interesting to me that the sales NICS have been over 1.5 million per month since March. Maybe the manufacturers are keeping up with demand but they're flying off the shelves so fast it looks like there's an actual shortage.

  2. #12
    LEO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdump View Post

    Also, it looks like roughly half (if itís one firearm per background check) of the background checks turned up a no go? Half? Iíd expect to see the number of firearms sold exceed the number of background checks
    "About half of the background checks done in the NICS system are now done for carry permits or carry permit rechecks." That, to me, is another promising number, meaning more people getting/renewing permits.

  3. #13
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    Hopefully in a few months alot of these new gun owners decide they don't want them anymore and flood the used gun market.

  4. #14
    LEO

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    On the topic of gun purchases, and all the crazy plans the Antis come up with to slow them down, I've often thought that "one gun a month" could be an actual goal to shoot for (pun not intended as typing, but hey, it works). I have never bought that many guns in a year, and although I'm sure there are enthusiasts out there who buy that frequently, we all know that most gun owners don't get new guns that frequently. But, what if we could start a movement to prove how silly that is, by getting as many owners as possible to make 12 gun purchases in a year? For instance, we're a household of three, so to make it cost effective, one inexpensive, crack-barrel shotgun each, a 12 for me, 20 for the wife, 410 for my son. Then an old beater revolver from a pawn shop to keep in my truck, a used .22 for plinking from a gun show dealer, a good deal from someone here on a WWII milsurp to look cool on a wall rack. Staying with some lower cost but reliable brands, one factory new pistol each to train for defensive use. Round out the year with some basic, iron-sighted rifles of various capable meat-getting calibers, new or used, and a dozen guns have now been newly or re-circulated. To really drive the point, sales from dealers involving a background check would be preferred, but even without that, an increase in private buying/selling couldn't hurt the market, and might connect more gun owners with like-minded neighbors. And nothing says I have to keep all 12, I can turn around and sell some to get money for the next. Say I start with a the beater from the pawn shop, but then sell that one to someone at a gun show next month where I turn that money towards a new gun before walking out the door. I've created two purchases for my goal for the year, and maybe one for someone else. I just imagine blood vessels popping out of the sides of the heads of bed-wetting, namby-pamby Democrats screaming "THAT'S NOT WHAT WE MEANT!"

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraut View Post
    On the topic of gun purchases, and all the crazy plans the Antis come up with to slow them down, I've often thought that "one gun a month" could be an actual goal to shoot for (pun not intended as typing, but hey, it works). I have never bought that many guns in a year, and although I'm sure there are enthusiasts out there who buy that frequently, we all know that most gun owners don't get new guns that frequently. But, what if we could start a movement to prove how silly that is, by getting as many owners as possible to make 12 gun purchases in a year? For instance, we're a household of three, so to make it cost effective, one inexpensive, crack-barrel shotgun each, a 12 for me, 20 for the wife, 410 for my son. Then an old beater revolver from a pawn shop to keep in my truck, a used .22 for plinking from a gun show dealer, a good deal from someone here on a WWII milsurp to look cool on a wall rack. Staying with some lower cost but reliable brands, one factory new pistol each to train for defensive use. Round out the year with some basic, iron-sighted rifles of various capable meat-getting calibers, new or used, and a dozen guns have now been newly or re-circulated. To really drive the point, sales from dealers involving a background check would be preferred, but even without that, an increase in private buying/selling couldn't hurt the market, and might connect more gun owners with like-minded neighbors. And nothing says I have to keep all 12, I can turn around and sell some to get money for the next. Say I start with a the beater from the pawn shop, but then sell that one to someone at a gun show next month where I turn that money towards a new gun before walking out the door. I've created two purchases for my goal for the year, and maybe one for someone else. I just imagine blood vessels popping out of the sides of the heads of bed-wetting, namby-pamby Democrats screaming "THAT'S NOT WHAT WE MEANT!"
    That would be a good way to get a knock on your door from BATFE.

  6. #16
    Donít troll me bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBP55 View Post
    That would be a good way to get a knock on your door from BATFE.
    Yeah, canít buy with intent to sell without the proper license.

    Iím pretty sure I meet my quota every month. He said 12 guns a month, right? Do lowers count?
    Doesnít play well with TROLLS...

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    La. CHP Instructor #409

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username5388 View Post
    Hopefully in a few months alot of these new gun owners decide they don't want them anymore and flood the used gun market.
    Firearms and ammunition are slowly becoming more available and it will be more difficult to sell the common used pistols on BS for $700-$800 in the near future.

  8. #18
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    I hope you're right! I just want prices to settle back down soon.

  9. #19
    Seriously Misunderstood!

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    If these scum in Washington don't pass another stimulus Bill soon, a lot of these new guns are going to be used when most of the state's employment benefits run out.

    I am actually quite surprised that there isn't more violence associated with various thefts.
    Remember; The 2nd Amendment Protects the 1st!
    Lyndon Johnson (Democrat & Father of US Welfare System) we'll give them stuff........."and have them ni&&ers voting democratic for the next 200 years!"
    "I'm a self reliant, self supported American trapped in a "Free Shit" society!"
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    PLEASE STOP USING GOOGLE!
    I don't believe in a supreme deity; but have to believe Trump's win was Divine Intervention!

  10. #20
    Donít troll me bro!

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    I’ve been under the impression that the majority of, if not all of the heinous shootings we’ve all heard about over the past decade or better were perpetrated by loony leftist leaning crazy folks. I’m just wondering if we can expect another rash of shootings with all the lefties making all these new gun purchases.
    Doesnít play well with TROLLS...

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