Ammo Shortage

340six · Dec 1, 2020

So what is 380 going for, brass cased FMJ that is?

Magdump · Dec 1, 2020

Jlong1691 said:
Though there are dozens of major and minor ammunition manufacturers in the U.S., only four domestic manufacturers produce primers: Federal, CCI, Remington and Winchester.

Every other manufacturer except these 4, and you can bet Remington's manufacture is not running at capacity at this moment.

I know I’ve bought primers from a few manufacturers outside the US and everything seems to work out fine, but for the choice loads I’ve stuck with over the years and most of my 300AAC loading I stick with American stuff. I’ve had a few people tell me over the years that primers are primers, but there wouldn’t be more than one type of each size primer if that were the case. Sellier & Bellot makes good primers. I haven’t tried the Tula/Wolf stuff at all but hear they are good.

DAVE_M · Dec 1, 2020

Jlong1691 said:
Though there are dozens of major and minor ammunition manufacturers in the U.S., only four domestic manufacturers produce primers: Federal, CCI, Remington and Winchester.

Every other manufacturer except these 4, and you can bet Remington's manufacture is not running at capacity at this moment.

I know that Federal and CCI/Speer make their own, which is why I stated it. I mentioned Sig, because there was an SSD article a month or so ago talking about Sig beginning production of their own primers.

https://soldiersystems.net/2020/10/31/this-is-happening-2/

I am assuming that the major primer manufacturers also sell to smaller manufacturers.

Also, I left Academy today (looking for non-gun stuff), but stopped by the counter while I was there. Ammo was limit 1 box per person and .22lr was $0.18/rd.

Fugum · Dec 1, 2020

DAVE_M said:
I know that Federal and CCI/Speer make their own, which is why I stated it. I mentioned Sig, because there was an SSD article a month or so ago talking about Sig beginning production of their own primers.

https://soldiersystems.net/2020/10/31/this-is-happening-2/

I am assuming that the major primer manufacturers also sell to smaller manufacturers.

Also, I left Academy today (looking for non-gun stuff), but stopped by the counter while I was there. Ammo was limit 1 box per person and .22lr was $0.18/rd.

The Kenner Academy has a 3 box limit, one box can be bulk ammo though, over 150 rounds. Steelcase 9mm was about .20/round before tax, not terrible considering the times. Not sure what everything else was running, but they had plenty of .223, .380, .22lr, 45acp, and 9mm.

340six · Dec 1, 2020

Fugum said:
The Kenner Academy has a 3 box limit, one box can be bulk ammo though, over 150 rounds. Steelcase 9mm was about .20/round before tax, not terrible considering the times. Not sure what everything else was running, but they had plenty of .223, .380, .22lr, 45acp, and 9mm.

So no brass cased Ammo?

Jlong1691 · Dec 1, 2020

DAVE_M said:
I know that Federal and CCI/Speer make their own, which is why I stated it. I mentioned Sig, because there was an SSD article a month or so ago talking about Sig beginning production of their own primers.

https://soldiersystems.net/2020/10/31/this-is-happening-2/

I am assuming that the major primer manufacturers also sell to smaller manufacturers.

Also, I left Academy today (looking for non-gun stuff), but stopped by the counter while I was there. Ammo was limit 1 box per person and .22lr was $0.18/rd.

Sig at this point I don't think could be considered a Major Manufacturer of ammunition by volume. Hornady and a couple others come to mind though. Even then, pretty much all of them are being sourced from two major producers right now, both of which are going to prioritize their own production capability over anyone else. So that means smaller manufacturers, and some large ones as well are bidding for whatever primers they can get their hands on. This is what is being told to me by the folks who I order my ammo for retail sale through at any rate. In any case, this is why you are seeing prices for the primer producing ammo companies, not increase as much, and availability somewhat out there. Ammo is still very much hard to find for those of us that actually shoot. I am nowhere near comfortable enough to make regular range trips with my stash, and current availability, in the same capacity as I have been shooting over the past few years.

It is not impossible to find, but it is nowhere near as expendable. I can't just call tomorrow, and have a pallet shipped from any one manufacturer.

Magdump · Dec 1, 2020

I went to Hammond academy after lunch and bought the three 525 round boxes of Remington golden bullets because they were 29.99 each and I get 5% off using their card. Worked out to 6 cents per round after tax. They also had a Taurus TX22 for 299 and a Ruger MKIV 22/45 Lite and maybe 20 other handguns. They had about 50 boxes of CCI Stingers and a couple dozen boxes of 40 S+W and 45ACP defensive loads. I couldn’t find any coveralls tho, which is why I went.

DAVE_M · Dec 1, 2020

Jlong1691 said:
Sig at this point I don't think could be considered a Major Manufacturer of ammunition by volume. Hornady and a couple others come to mind though. Even then, pretty much all of them are being sourced from two major producers right now, both of which are going to prioritize their own production capability over anyone else. So that means smaller manufacturers, and some large ones as well are bidding for whatever primers they can get their hands on. This is what is being told to me by the folks who I order my ammo for retail sale through at any rate. In any case, this is why you are seeing prices for the primer producing ammo companies, not increase as much, and availability somewhat out there. Ammo is still very much hard to find for those of us that actually shoot. I am nowhere near comfortable enough to make regular range trips with my stash, and current availability, in the same capacity as I have been shooting over the past few years.

It is not impossible to find, but it is nowhere near as expendable. I can't just call tomorrow, and have a pallet shipped from any one manufacturer.

If you go back through my posts, I never said there was an abundant supply. Prices have risen and supplies are low. Is ammunition still available at *cheaper* prices? Yes, but as I’ve stated, it goes fast.

I would love to be shooting 10,000+ rounds of 9mm per year again, but that’s not happening any time soon. I can’t replenish what stock I have. Shooting 2-300 rounds of 9mm alone weekly was nice. I’m afraid that’s not going to happen again any time soon.

Gator 45/70 · Dec 1, 2020

Good Lord man!!! If I couldn't hit something with 300 shots I think I'd have to sell my 1 gun and take up knitting !

Fugum · Dec 1, 2020

340six said:
So no brass cased Ammo?

Not that I noticed, but I couldn't swear to it

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Magdump · Dec 2, 2020

Here’s some .22 in stock!
Only 61 cents per round....
If you dropped Cheaper than dirt in the Obammy days, might wanna add Optics Planet to your no buy list. I dropped them about a year ago for reasons other than price gouging.

https://www.opticsplanet.com/lapua-...edium=affiliate&utm_campaign=affiliate-329041

Merk504 · Dec 2, 2020

Gretna Gun Works has ammo, go check it out

Gator 45/70 · Dec 2, 2020

Merk504 said:
Gretna Gun Works has ammo, go check it out

Yeah,Yall go there,Ask for Sasquatch same dude as rcm192,Bring him some jerky is a plus !

Blackhawk · Dec 2, 2020

$1 per round actually looks pretty good when compared to 45-70 rifle ammo. Best price for 45-70 on Ammoseek.com is $3 per round, or $60 for a box of 20. Guess my 1893 Trapdoor Springfield is going to sit in the corner for a while.

WOLFIE · Dec 2, 2020

Gator 45/70 said:
Well thinking I'll run out to Sherburne this weekend and try a few 9s I cobbled together yesterday.
Shouldn't be anyone out there with no ammo to be found?

Tupperware, the other ammo can

I use Tupperware myself. Works well when you are out of ammo boxes

Jadams74 · Dec 2, 2020

Gator 45/70 said:
Nah,Comes around every 4 years,Plus throw in a hurricane or 2,Dem Tifa's in the street,NFAC and all these other lovely ****-head libs that all the sudden need to buy

up everything cause they scared them....and.... Dot.Gov ordering a Quad-trillion-billion rounds to round us up with,You have a shortage.

I'm down to my regular stock of 1000 rounds per caliber of gun that I own, but don't have any for my usual 2-3 times a week of range time and I'm holding off on building my next 300bo AR for now because prices have risen on almost EVERYTHING gun related, not just ammo due to scarcity.

340six · Dec 2, 2020

Gator 45/70 said:
Yeah,Yall go there,Ask for Sasquatch same dude as rcm192,Bring him some jerky is a plus !

I thought it was Yoo-Hoo. Tell him you need some 22.
Or just state pew pew I needs some 22

Gator 45/70 · Dec 2, 2020

340six said:
I thought it was Yoo-Hoo. Tell him you need some 22.
Or just state pew pew I needs some 22

That's him,Thank the good lord he hasn't found anymore buttshitz'scrazy videos to post....

Gator 45/70 · Dec 2, 2020

Jadams74 said:
I'm down to my regular stock of 1000 rounds per caliber of gun that I own, but don't have any for my usual 2-3 times a week of range time and I'm holding off on building my next 300bo AR for now because prices have risen on almost EVERYTHING gun related, not just ammo due to scarcity.

I was digging in my stuff this am, Found 6 boxes of the above mentioned pew pew pews

340six · Dec 2, 2020

Gator 45/70 said:
That's him,Thank the good lord he hasn't found anymore buttshitz'scrazy videos to post....

If ya,want more I am sure Ryan has a,whole play list since he posted that one.
I can post it if you want. But it can not be un seen

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