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    Quote Originally Posted by DAVE_M View Post
    Did you try it in any ALS holsters?

    I figured worst case it might fit a GLS.
    Doesn't fit an ALS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttanic View Post
    Doesn't fit an ALS.
    The training gun/pistol you have, is it just a “tight fit” in G19 holsters?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasarii View Post
    The training gun/pistol you have, is it just a *tight fit* in G19 holsters?


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    The new Gen 5 .40 caliber Safariland holsters are slightly larger.

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    I bought a Sig branded Sig 320 pellet pistol from Academy. It is a CO2 pistol. I do not have a real 320 so I cannot compare them side by side but it is supposed to be very close weight and dimension wise. I bought a cheap holster for the 320 and it fits well. Not the real thing obviously but definately great for practicing presentation, trigger control and other basics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttanic View Post
    Doesn't fit an ALS.
    That’s what I figured. I took my slide off the frame and tried to insert it into a few holsters, but no dice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasarii View Post
    The training gun/pistol you have, is it just a *tight fit* in G19 holsters?


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    I’ll send you some pics later today.

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    Double tap.
    Last edited by JBP55; January 22nd, 2021 at 09:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAVE_M View Post
    There are ranges that do the same, such as FRC, but I think the OP is looking for something an individual can use to supplement dry fire.
    Does FRC teach shooters in the Sims class how to Slice the Pie when entering the room with a shooter inside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBP55 View Post
    Does FRC teach shooters in the Sims class how to Slice the Pie when entering the room with a shooter inside?
    I would imagine they teach shooters various techniques, but I’ve never taken their specific sims courses.

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    Thank you for the feedback, and to address a few points and put out some fires. I have used simunitions before, the problem here being that they are still nigh on a dollar a round. While good for force on force training, and things you couldn't otherwise do, the cost situation is the major factor here. It was easy to shoot 500-1000 rounds at .15 a round. While I can probably find simunitions in sufficient volume, the cost is the nail in the coffin.

    As far as Paintball goes, I think it bulds a lot of gun related skillsets, and re enforces and builds a related mindset. Due to the difference in ergonomics it does little in the way of helping muscle memory etc. I spent 25 years in paintball. Even had a paintball store. I value my time spent on the field as a particular type of training that is related, but will not fill the particular role of pistol proficiency that I am speaking of.

    To the Canuk who asked about felt recoil and proficiency. Felt recoil has much to do with the follow through, realignment of sights, and the plethora of things that happen between shots. It is of utmost importance for training proficiency in many aspects of pistol shooting. I do not prescribe to the one round per second perfect world shooting of most range firing lines.

    On a more personal level, we are all on this board for reasons of our own. We do however share common interests. Would it not be easier to build friendships, and more beneficial to the board, the act of shooting, and firearm ownership across the board. If we tried as hard to get along, as we did to create friction and rivalry with one another? There are obviously some elephants in the room. I know I have had some issues of my own with some. Much due in part to my general, and lackadaisical use of terminology. I tend not to be very specific when talking about a thing, because I, and most of the people I interact with would get the point, without further explanation. At one time I found entertainment value in this. Now it is arduous, and an act of labor to wade through, and I would generally just prefer not to do it.

    Everyone who has commented on this has made valid points, and added value to the conversation. I know where Dave is coming from, and Magdump, etc.

    I picked the pistol I did, because it said it would fit Glock holster., That is one of the issues Novritsch had with the other Glock pistols. I'll let you all know. Also did the pistol you had have hop up in to Dave, and did you try shooting the heavier BB's at range? I am really expecting to get decent accuracy at 15 yards. Beyond that I unserstand the limitations of the physics. I did order spare magazines as well for mag changes.

    I do believe however that there will be value in using this as a training tool for my specific purpose, target tree, El Presidente, etc. I know it won't flip my targets on the tree, but the transition, sight alignment etc while not exact, will be very similar in ergonomics to my edc. A little versatility never hurt anyone, and I do train with multiple pistol platforms on a regular basis anyway.

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    I’ll share some links when I get back home, but there are some reduced steel targets for use with airsoft guns as a means of training steel challenge and USPSA. I bought mine specifically to shoot drills ten yards and in. It’s not quite powerful enough to punch through a cardboard IPSC, but it can definitely punch through paper.

    I didn’t intend to derail the thread. I hope you get more answers, because I’ve been looking for something similar since I ran into the issues with my airsoft Glock.

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