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    I despise ARFCOM

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    Regulations that apply to Drone flight .

    Just curious about something . What are the regulations that apply to overflight of private property ? Is there a minimum altitude requirement ? I hear people say that it is illegal to " shoot down " a Drone that is flying over their property but it seems that there has to be some kind of privacy / harassment protection . Anyone know the regs ?
    I tried being normal once , I didn't like it .

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    Marksman

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/droneli...e-tackled/amp/


    We spoke with Jacob Tewes, an attorney at Kutak Rock LLP who specialises in drones and the unique legal challenges faced by commercial drone operators in the United States.

    As he explains, *Shooting down a drone is a federal crime because drones are *aircraft* under federal law. 18 U.S.C. ß 32. It would also be illegal under general criminal or civil laws in most states.

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    Shooter

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    When doing anything with aircraft (maybe drone) below 500ft you have to get written permission from landowner according to pilots I have flown with. Hard to prove how high you were in drone cases.

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    oldbie

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    Shooting down would be illegal (not to mention discharge of a firearm in the city limits for me...). What about lasers to blind the camera?

    oh if you happen have an eagle handy... The Royal Canadian Mounties are training them to take out drones!
    "Be water, my friend..."

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    I'm a part 107 certified drone pilot and professional aerial cinematographer. Sorry, but you don't own the air over your property. I can fly 1 foot over your property and film whatever I want without permission. It's the same as if a helicopter was flying over your property. A "drone" is a registered aircraft with the same protections as a helicopter or airliner. If you try to shoot it down or blind it with a laser I'm going to have to call the police and file a report with the FAA.

    With that said, some cities have ordinances regarding peeping tom activity with a drone. Basically, spying on people in their backyard with a drone. If I'm going to be flying low around someone's house I will generally try to make contact with the owners just to make sure they understand I'm not spying and I'm filming for an assignment. However, if it's a large open piece of property I won't make any notifications. I have had angry owners storm over trying to shut me down and in that case I call the police. 99% of the time I'm not even interested in filming your property. I'm just filming the sunset or something else away from your property and the airspace over your house just happens to be the best spot to film from. If I wanted to film your property I could do it across the street.

    Edit: OK "1 foot over" is a bit of an exaggeration. The Supreme Court has ruled you are entitled to some safe use of the air above your property and I'm required to fly in a manner that does not endanger people or property. If I can fly through and hit your head then that's not very safe. However, if it's out of reach and not endangering any of your property then I interpret the rules that I'm good to fly. I generally wouldn't fly under 100 feet anyway which is way out of your "reasonable use" area. Again, this does not rule out any state laws that could be different. I've only be trained in FAA laws.
    Last edited by aroundlsu; January 23rd, 2021 at 03:24 PM.
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    Marksman

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    Quote Originally Posted by aroundlsu View Post
    I'm a part 107 certified drone pilot and professional aerial cinematographer. Sorry, but you don't own the air over your property. I can fly 1 foot over your property and film whatever I want without permission. It's the same as if a helicopter was flying over your property. A "drone" is a registered aircraft with the same protections as a helicopter or airliner. If you try to shoot it down or blind it with a laser I'm going to have to call the police and file a report with the FAA.

    With that said, some cities have ordinances regarding peeping tom activity with a drone. Basically, spying on people in their backyard with a drone. If I'm going to be flying low around someone's house I will generally try to make contact with the owners just to make sure they understand I'm not spying and I'm filming for an assignment. However, if it's a large open piece of property I won't make any notifications. I have had angry owners storm over trying to shut me down and in that case I call the police. 99% of the time I'm not even interested in filming your property. I'm just filming the sunset or something else away from your property and the airspace over your house just happens to be the best spot to film from. If I wanted to film your property I could do it across the street.

    Edit: OK "1 foot over" is a bit of an exaggeration. The Supreme Court has ruled you are entitled to some safe use of the air above your property and I'm required to fly in a manner that does not endanger people or property. If I can fly through and hit your head then that's not very safe. However, if it's out of reach and not endangering any of your property then I interpret the rules that I'm good to fly. I generally wouldn't fly under 100 feet anyway which is way out of your "reasonable use" area. Again, this does not rule out any state laws that could be different. I've only be trained in FAA laws.
    Yeah,The farther west you come in this state the greater chance one takes with himself and said equipment being perforated while trespassing or having ones phone and drone shoved up ones neither regions,

    These crazy people over here fight just for fun on a Saturday night

    That's the honest to gods truth
    "When You Go Home, Tell Them Of Us And Say, For Your Tomorrow, We Gave Our's Today"

    Voting is the responsibility of a citizen, even if voting may not necessarily be obligatory. To not vote seems to me to be an abrogation of one's responsibility as a citizen, regardless of one's politics.

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    Bayou Photo Shooter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator 45/70 View Post
    Yeah,The farther west you come in this state the greater chance one takes with himself and said equipment being perforated while trespassing or having ones phone and drone shoved up ones neither regions,

    These crazy people over here fight just for fun on a Saturday night

    That's the honest to gods truth
    Possibly. But I still have a job to do. I've been hired to photograph this location for whatever reason and I'm going to deliver.

    This is similar to the attitude of anti-gunners, anti open carry people, and so on. If someone comes up to me and politely asks me about my gun (or my drone) I'll calmly and politely talk about it. But if someone comes up to in a rage threatening all sorts of things then I'm not going to into a debate about it. I'm going to respond accordingly. Trust me, I've been there. Now a days, my drone shoots are so big budget the we have off duty LEO running traffic and/or security so the said crazy people aren't going to get very far.
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    Marksman

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    Quote Originally Posted by aroundlsu View Post
    Possibly. But I still have a job to do. I've been hired to photograph this location for whatever reason and I'm going to deliver.

    This is similar to the attitude of anti-gunners, anti open carry people, and so on. If someone comes up to me and politely asks me about my gun (or my drone) I'll calmly and politely talk about it. But if someone comes up to in a rage threatening all sorts of things then I'm not going to into a debate about it. I'm going to respond accordingly. Trust me, I've been there. Now a days, my drone shoots are so big budget the we have off duty LEO running traffic and/or security so the said crazy people aren't going to get very far.
    I'm telling you,They won't say anything,That's especially true if they have a teenage daughter or a hot wife,Just start ducking when their right on top of you....
    "When You Go Home, Tell Them Of Us And Say, For Your Tomorrow, We Gave Our's Today"

    Voting is the responsibility of a citizen, even if voting may not necessarily be obligatory. To not vote seems to me to be an abrogation of one's responsibility as a citizen, regardless of one's politics.

  9. #9
    Donít troll me bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aroundlsu View Post
    I'm a part 107 certified drone pilot and professional aerial cinematographer. Sorry, but you don't own the air over your property. I can fly 1 foot over your property and film whatever I want without permission. It's the same as if a helicopter was flying over your property. A "drone" is a registered aircraft with the same protections as a helicopter or airliner. If you try to shoot it down or blind it with a laser I'm going to have to call the police and file a report with the FAA.

    With that said, some cities have ordinances regarding peeping tom activity with a drone. Basically, spying on people in their backyard with a drone. If I'm going to be flying low around someone's house I will generally try to make contact with the owners just to make sure they understand I'm not spying and I'm filming for an assignment. However, if it's a large open piece of property I won't make any notifications. I have had angry owners storm over trying to shut me down and in that case I call the police. 99% of the time I'm not even interested in filming your property. I'm just filming the sunset or something else away from your property and the airspace over your house just happens to be the best spot to film from. If I wanted to film your property I could do it across the street.

    Edit: OK "1 foot over" is a bit of an exaggeration. The Supreme Court has ruled you are entitled to some safe use of the air above your property and I'm required to fly in a manner that does not endanger people or property. If I can fly through and hit your head then that's not very safe. However, if it's out of reach and not endangering any of your property then I interpret the rules that I'm good to fly. I generally wouldn't fly under 100 feet anyway which is way out of your "reasonable use" area. Again, this does not rule out any state laws that could be different. I've only be trained in FAA laws.
    Ok, but donít do that over my property.
    I have a feeling drone owners with the mindset of being protected from any sort of retaliation or intervention will be the instrument of their own demise. People build privacy fencing and such for a reason. For any hobbyist thinking they can invade that privacy all the way up to peeking into windows that the owner believes to be non visible to the public (second floor bedroom window, etc) is morally wrong and will eventually be dealt with. I donít mind openly saying that I would not stand for that type of harassment and Iím certainly not the only one. Flying a few hundred feet over a neighborhood is one thing, but singling out a family and being a psycho pervert is gonna have some very negative consequences. Iím sure the world of droning is chock full of participants who donít care about keeping the hobby safe from new restrictions, so itís just a matter of time before owners feel the repercussions of really bad behavior.... in one form or another.
    Last edited by Magdump; January 23rd, 2021 at 05:37 PM.
    Doesnít play well with TROLLS...

  10. #10
    Marksman

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    I think in general, most guys that fly drones do it to film the beauty of nature or to film their family, friends, etc. I don't think they really care about what you're doing in your house or that they want to spy on you. I love Louisiana and the beauty of Louisiana. I mainly just film the lakes, rivers, and Gulf of Mexico. It's amazing to see the different perspective of a lake or river when you're flying above it versus when you're on the ground. Here's what I filmed for those that want to see:


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