Firearm values - moving forward

**davidd** · February 23rd, 2021, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Magdump

People are already fed up with taxation. I don’t believe the turnout would be too good if they NFA’d everything. There were talks of adding pistol braces to the NFA list, which would likely work that small niche of gun owners and we’d see some sell, some buy the stamp, and we wouldn’t see all the people that park it in the closet and flip off the Feds. Because they’re not going to talk about it.
And when they completely outlaw guns...

I absolutely and totally agree with you. But what about the people behind you? Are they going to keep your AR's and mags you did not register? No frikin way. They will turn them in and be done with them.

Friction. Attrition. That's the plan, at least as I see it now. It's going to work with my stuff too if this NFA thing passes, and I hate it.

**MOTOR51** · February 23rd, 2021, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Magdump

People are already fed up with taxation. I don’t believe the turnout would be too good if they NFA’d everything. There were talks of adding pistol braces to the NFA list, which would likely work that small niche of gun owners and we’d see some sell, some buy the stamp, and we wouldn’t see all the people that park it in the closet and flip off the Feds. Because they’re not going to talk about it.
And when they completely outlaw guns...

Just the talk of it had braces showing up for sale all over.

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**Kraut** · February 24th, 2021, 09:24 AM

I know before the first AWB, when I was first going around to some gun shows, ARs with 16" barrels, A2 uppers, collapsible stocks, and solid brands could be had for $495 at just about any table in the building, and there were lots of tables. I wish I'd been politically aware at the time and had known what was coming, because with a life insurance payout in the bank after my father passed, I would have bought about 50 and tripled my money over the next ten years. It was nearly impossible to find a pre-ban for less than $1,500 for most of that time.

In a lot of ways, I think the insidious, sideways approaches are more worrisome than attempts at outright bans. Huge tax and fee increases associated with purchase, ownership, carry, use to hunt or shoot. Insurance requirements. Mental health checks. Bringing lawsuits against manufacturers back to the table. Permit and course requirements just to teach kids to hunt/shoot. These are all much more palatable for properly indoctrinated new, young voters to vote for as "reasonable," or not object to when enacted as regulatory measures rather than legislation. Teach your children well.

**Trailboss** · February 24th, 2021, 10:35 AM

I think many (hope most) legal gun owners will just not comply, just like the Canadian gun owners when the Parliament passed a registration law a few years ago. I know I will take a page from the liberal handbook based on Henry David Thoreau's essay "Civil Disobedience," the Civil Rights Movement and anti-war protestors. It is my duty as an American citizen to peacefully not comply with laws that violate our Bill of Rights and the Constitution. I fear, however, that within a few generations of propaganda in the schools and through MSM, the Second Amendment will be voted away after old curmudgeons like me have passed on.

We have had hundreds of "common sense" gun control laws since the NFA of 1938 (and even earlier with all the Jim Crow laws pushed by old Democrats to keep guns out of Black hands), and it hasn't helped with today's level of violence (gun and non-gun). Legal use of guns by non-criminal Americans is not a problem that needs control, and new, incrementally-restrictive gun laws is not the answer. Thus, the first half of my signature.