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    Louisiana law on CCW in businesses

    Does anyone know if and what Louisiana laws are in existence for signage a business must post at their store front and punishment of a CHP holder if they carry into a business prohibiting CCW? Iím not asking this to know how and where to skirt the law, but only to know and obey it. If a business owner wishes to ban CCW, I will respect their wish and avoid going there all together, but Iím just wondering how diligent we need to be in looking for signage. For years, I always thought there were laws on the books which spelled out the specific size of a sign, letters and where a business had to display it on their store front. When I got to digging into this, I was not able to find any laws whatsoever on this subject. I know a CHP holder must notify and ask for permission to carry into the residence of a private residence, but am not finding anything dealing with businesses. Itís one thing if all a business owner/representative can do is ask you to leave the establishment, but itís another thing if criminal charges can be brought against you.

    Recently, I read an article of an occurrence at a hotel somewhere in the country where the hotel tried to get CHP holders into trouble with the law. Basically, a group of CHP holders booked a bunch of rooms at a hotel for a CCW convention, but after they were all checked in, someone at the hotel found out who they were and hurriedly printed and posted signs around the hotel prohibiting CCW, then had the nerve to call the police. Itís been a few months since I read the article, so I donít recall if it was the hotel manager or owner who pulled this stunt. This isnít something that happened in Louisiana, but similar occurrences can happen anywhere and I just want to make sure I know the facts. If anyone has any information on this, I will really appreciate you sharing your knowledge of it.

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    AFAIK - There are no signage laws in LA. In Texas there are 30.06 and 30.07 signage, but not here. Some businesses put a No Firearms sign on the door but does not carry the weight of the law. Concealed means concealed. If they see you and ask you to leave, you must leave or face trespassing charges, but we don't have signage laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampfoxx View Post
    Some businesses put a No Firearms sign on the door but does not carry the weight of the law. Concealed means concealed.
    Want to test the law??? I don't think anyone, including myself, has found a case that has tested whether or not the signs carry the weight of the law in Louisiana - even though there is not a law specifically addressing a "no firearms" sign.

    There was a lengthy discussion about it here a while back. Still nothing definite. Personally, I don't have the time or money to test the theory that the signs have no force of law.


    https://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/...53#post1616053

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    It certainly would be nice if our Attorney General would weigh in with an opinion. I've seen some pretty small signs buried all the way at the bottom right side of a sliding glass door. I'd hate to think someone could face legal issues based on a 2" x 2" moving sticker.

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    The way I understand the laws in this state, a business can indeed report you to law enforcement and have you removed and trespassed from the property but not prosecuted for practicing your right to carry concealed with a permit unless they are located within the confines of a firearms free zone so marked by local government such as a school. In other words, just because a private business says you canít carry on their property does not make it against the law. Itís just against their rules. Weíve had that explained to us at work by a sheriffís deputy when discussing active shooter drills. The question was asked a few times and it was answered with much innuendo and emphasis on not against the law.
    Last edited by Magdump; April 1st, 2021 at 11:46 AM.
    Doesnít play well with TROLLS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdump View Post
    The way I understand the laws in this state, a business can indeed report you to law enforcement and have you removed and trespassed from the property but not prosecuted for practicing your right to carry concealed with a permit unless they are located within the confines of a firearms free zone so marked by local government such as a school. In other words, just because a private business says you can’t carry on their property does not make it against the law. It’s just against their rules. We’ve had that explained to us at work by a sheriff’s deputy when discussing active shooter drills. The question was asked a few times and it was answered with much innuendo and emphasis on not against the law.
    That's pretty much what I said. They can trespass you if you refuse to leave when asked. You can't be arrested simply for carrying a weapon in disregard to their unlawful sign.

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    Double Tap.
    Last edited by JBP55; April 1st, 2021 at 03:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampfoxx View Post
    That's pretty much what I said. They can trespass you if you refuse to leave when asked. You can't be arrested simply for carrying a weapon in disregard to their unlawful sign.
    You can be arrested for "Remaining After Being Forbidden" or just told by LEO to leave and not return. The business can put your name on a list and you are no longer welcome in their stores, same with shoplifters.

    Double Tap.
    Last edited by JBP55; April 1st, 2021 at 03:37 PM.

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    Donít troll me bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampfoxx View Post
    That's pretty much what I said. They can trespass you if you refuse to leave when asked. You can't be arrested simply for carrying a weapon in disregard to their unlawful sign.
    Yup, they don’t even need a reason to permanently trespass a person. And once Walmart enters that into their face rec data banks you graduate from being Walmart people and move up the social ladder.
    Doesnít play well with TROLLS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugum View Post
    It certainly would be nice if our Attorney General would weigh in with an opinion. I've seen some pretty small signs buried all the way at the bottom right side of a sliding glass door. I'd hate to think someone could face legal issues based on a 2" x 2" moving sticker.
    Sometimes grey areas are nice. If you ask for an AG opinion (only certain people can do so) or for the legislature to pass a law, be ready to be get a result you may not like. I'd rather let that sleeping dog lie.
    "Incrementalism" (Lingchi) is the weapon used by anti-gun forces to destroy the second amendment.
    "Compromise" is an action that can only be used one time - when you compromise a compromise, you have lost the entire issue.

    ďLife should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!Ē Hunter S. Thompson

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