Cop sent back to training after confrontation

Speedlace · Jun 16, 2010

The copper sees a guy (black hat) jaywalking and calls him over to talk to him about the violation.
While talking to the guy, the copper sees three other people (three women) jaywalking and accosted them.
When the cop asked for I.D. the woman in the black started to walk away. The cop grabs her arm to bring her to the front of the patrol car.

This is where the vid picks up.

The YouTube vid is more work safe than the 1st vid, but the 1st vid is hella better.

FULL 10 MIN unedited

[YOUTUBE]E9w9AfptGGQ[/YOUTUBE]
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012122660_coppunch16m.html
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/96434644.html

BTW: I LOL'ed

Nolacopusmc · Jun 16, 2010

Animals will act like animals.

Officer was 100% justified in his use of force.

he should have used more force sooner to avoid the "punch".

Nolacopusmc · Jun 16, 2010

Rosenthal appeared Tuesday in King County Juvenile Court, where supporters said that she lives at the Virginia Miller House, a residential facility with behavior-modification programs for teen girls, but was in contact with her family. It's unclear why the girl is not living with her family.

King County Superior Court pro-tem Judge Ann Danieli found that Seattle police had probable cause to arrest Rosenthal for investigation of third-degree assault and obstruction. However, the judge agreed with the girl's defense attorney that she should be released.

Marilyn Jamerson, Rosenthal's aunt, spoke after the hearing in support of the girl.

"She's perfect; that's why we call her Angel," Jamerson said. "She was named Angel for a reason."

She be perfect doh!

charlie12 · Jun 16, 2010

I was reading a about that a little bit ago on http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/6170066412
She needed her ass kicked

Nolacopusmc · Jun 16, 2010

charlie12 said:
I was reading a about that a little bit ago on http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/6170066412
She needed her ass kicked

That was a perfect opportunity for pepperspray or a Taser.

oleheat · Jun 16, 2010

perfect situation for the still-uninvented taserbomb.....

CEHollier · Jun 16, 2010

oleheat said:
perfect situation for the still-uninvented taserbomb.....

Agreed. A tazer or pepper spray would have been appropriate than punching or physically subduing her. Ignoring/resisting the police is always a bad idea.

sraiford · Jun 16, 2010

F***ing animals!!!!! Why is everyone just watching and not assisting the officer??? All that just sat there using their phones to video and coaxing the crowd should be charged with something.... insiting a riot, treason, something :mad:

But I'll tell you this.... the woman in the rose colored shirt seemed to disappear after a punch to the nose. :bravo:

Now lets bump it up.... you see this happening and the officer obviously was not incharge and or needed help. What do you do??

I have already been apart of something like this and I stepped in, addressed myself, offered assistance AND notified the deputy of my gun and permit, all this in about 3 seconds as he was attempting to restrain a drunken female from driving through a gas station with him in the door.

rooster · Jun 16, 2010

That was resisting arrest and assault on a polices for both women. He should have broke out the pepper spray or the taser. I am all about cival disobeidience but this crossed the line to uncival.

Akajun · Jun 16, 2010

He does need training, in proper and EFECTIVE use of force tactics. That tussle lasted about 2 mins longer than it had to. He exposed himself and his weapon way to much and could have gotten himself killed.

jmcrawf1 · Jun 16, 2010

Shoulda made her do the flippy floppy

charliepapa · Jun 16, 2010

Akajun said:
He does need training, in proper and EFECTIVE use of force tactics. That tussle lasted about 2 mins longer than it had to. He exposed himself and his weapon way to much and could have gotten himself killed.

That's what I kept thinking every time the person with the camera had a clear shot of him from behind and to the right where you could clearly see his gun and both hands were already way busy.

jetmech1983 · Jun 16, 2010

Really amazing how uncivilized people are in a group think situation. Just 1 or 2 good citizens could have made that a lot better.

charliepapa · Jun 16, 2010

LEO's please chime in: If Joe Citizen would have showed up and tazed or pepper-sprayed both resistors, what, if anything, would he be guilty of other than diffusing the situation?

CloudStrife · Jun 16, 2010

I don't think the punch was necessary, but oh well. I'm sure he was just doing what was readily available.
Is it "never hit a woman" or "never hit a lady"? I just laughed when I saw this bitch get hit. :rofl:

flamatrix99 · Jun 16, 2010

I can see the point of helping the cop. But we are just ordinary citizens. We are not trained to handle these type of situations. You step in with sorts of good intentions and you just exposed yourself to all sorts of potential lawsuits. Additionally you might make things worse and the cop may think you are part of the problem. Then you end up doing the flop and twitch on the ground.

CloudStrife said:
I don't think the punch was necessary, but oh well. I'm sure he was just doing what was readily available.
Is it "never hit a woman" or "never hit a lady"? I just laughed when I saw this bitch get hit.

That is good for not beating on your wife/gf but this person was assulting the cop GAME ON! IMO..

oleheat · Jun 16, 2010

The fact that this crowd automatically took her side should come as a surprise

....to no one.

I'm going to do something that in most cases I should not: I will assume this female has been in trouble numerous times before. This is a textbook example of what is wrong with many in our society- no respect for anything or anyone.

I personally would probably be in hot water for knocking their skulls together when they were both struggling with him at the same time.....

CloudStrife · Jun 16, 2010

You could hand the cop the pepper spray and allow him to use it.

SirIsaacNewton · Jun 16, 2010

I hope the training involved how to properly put down an individual. With all of that struggling etc. He just fueled the fire of the crowd who supported the woman. If he would have just tased her and put her in the car the crowd would have had one big OHHHH and been done with it. I am just glad the guy was video taping it because everyone was condemning him for his actions but he was definitely justified.

SpeedRacer · Jun 16, 2010

Looked like the only 1/2 intelligent person out there was the bystander in the blue shirt pulling the girl off of the officer. I would say the LEO was well below his allowed use of force in that situation.

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