Wanting to build an AR15

spanky · Sep 17, 2006

I read on another forum that this combination makes for a nice starter

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=22&t=335496
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=21&t=311790

Any opinions on this? Ive also been told to look into the RRA's.

I know a few of you arfcom guys here might be able to throw in some info so I don't have to browse through the hundreds of posts there.

Thanks!

Top Kek · Sep 17, 2006

i picked up a couple stripped DPMS lowers (the forged ones, not the cast ones) almost two years ago. one of them was going to be an M4gery build, the other was to be a match rifle.

what type of AR are you wanting to build?

plans for the M4gery are:
- RRA 2stg LPK (installed)
- Hogue pistol grip (installed)
- good ol 6 position (haven't ordered yet)
- CMMG 14.7" M4 profile upper w/ perm A2 hider, A3 (haven't ordered yet)
- either an aimpoint or eotech (haven't decided, need to fondle up some other people's guns to see what i'm more comfortable with)
- some form of BUIS

i like the CMMG uppers b/c of the 1/7 twist rate.

plans for the match rifle were (past tense b/c my roommate bought that lower)
- frank white trigger + other standard LPK items
- white oak armament service rifle upper
- regular A2 stock w/ whatever weight deemed necessary.

spanky · Sep 17, 2006

16" m4, 6pos stock with maybe an aimpoint or eotech, front grip, standard m4gery i suppose.

CavalryJim · Sep 17, 2006

I have built 3 ARs using a DPMS & 2 Stag lowers. The Stag were much better quality than the DPMS.

RRA is also a good choice. I prefer the mid-length gas system if you are using a 16" barrel.

SzUrGoT · Sep 17, 2006

Stag lowers are top notch. The deer head I could do without, but the quality makes is worth it, and you can get them cheap. If I were to have one AR, It would probably be a 16'' midlength with a collapsible stock.

But with so many options available for the AR, even that description leaves alot up to personal preference.

My best advice is to come to a local AR15 shoot and check out everything up close before you buy something and end up changing the components for something you like better.

The good news is you will end up getting more than one (I am on my third) and you can always do something different with the second one.

topgunz1 · Sep 17, 2006

I want an AR... looking heavily at the RRA Entry Tactical, any opinions? seems to be good for the money

CavalryJim · Sep 17, 2006

topgunz1 said:
I want an AR... looking heavily at the RRA Entry Tactical, any opinions? seems to be good for the money

RRA is an excellent choice. Top quality at a reasonable price. If you have any mechanical abilities (or even if you don't), consider building it yourself.

Only a few AR specific tools are needed and if you live in the Baton Rouge area I will gladly share mine.

topgunz1 · Sep 18, 2006

I've looked at different kits and such to build an AR, the price doesnt really seem much different from buying a complete rifle, plus all of the different options and variables leave me clueless. Theres so much information and different versions out there that its difficult for a beginner to know where to start, I've never even fired an AR lol. Before I got into LE, the only firearms I had any worthwhile experience with were shotguns.

SzUrGoT · Sep 18, 2006

topgunz1 said:
I've looked at different kits and such to build an AR, the price doesnt really seem much different from buying a complete rifle, plus all of the different options and variables leave me clueless. Theres so much information and different versions out there that its difficult for a beginner to know where to start, I've never even fired an AR lol. Before I got into LE, the only firearms I had any worthwhile experience with were shotguns.

Come to the shoot on Oct 1st. There will be lots of AR's in different configurations and people are friendly about letting you shoot them

Here is me shooting my RRA entry tactical at sherburne
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rjszurgot/DSC00194.jpg

topgunz1 · Sep 18, 2006

I'm going to try and come, wonder how the Glock 17 does at 100 yards.... lol

ar15sales.com (legal transfers on ar15.com) has the entry tactical for 869, seems to be the best deal around that I've found. I'm not sure if they can do any LE pricing or anything... Glock is real good about LE pricing, you have a commission you get the price. Some places require a dept. letter, not sure if I could get one since it would be for personal use not work related.

SzUrGoT · Sep 18, 2006

topgunz1 said:
I'm going to try and come, wonder how the Glock 17 does at 100 yards.... lol

ar15sales.com (legal transfers on ar15.com) has the entry tactical for 869, seems to be the best deal around that I've found. I'm not sure if they can do any LE pricing or anything... Glock is real good about LE pricing, you have a commission you get the price. Some places require a dept. letter, not sure if I could get one since it would be for personal use not work related.

I got mine at rbprecision.com, they have great prices on RRA stuff and are good people.

topgunz1 · Sep 19, 2006

I emailed Legal Transfers asking if they had LEO pricing on the RRA's, as well a price on the LMT rifle they were advertising for Military and LEO's... This will have to wait til around christmas when I get my check from working LSU games, but, i WILL own one...

spanky · Sep 19, 2006

SzUrGoT said:
I got mine at rbprecision.com, they have great prices on RRA stuff and are good people.

It looks like that site has some good prices. I'll probably be picking up the Tactical CAR A4 if I decide not to build.

spanky · Sep 19, 2006

Eaglefirearms.net also seems to have some good prices on RRA AR's with some different options for each configuration.

SzUrGoT · Sep 19, 2006

spanky said:
It looks like that site has some good prices. I'll probably be picking up the Tactical CAR A4 if I decide not to build.

Building is easy, saves money, you get exactly what you want and you learn alot about the rifle.

CavalryJim · Sep 19, 2006

Building is easy,
True.

saves money,
You can save a couple hundred bucks. And if $$$ is a problem, you can spread the purchases out so it is less of an impact.

you get exactly what you want
Suppose you want a RRA Entry Tactical with an ACE stock and Vortex FH. Building it yourself saves the trouble and cost of having to replace stuff you don't want.

and you learn alot about the rifle.
Priceless.

topgunz1 · Sep 19, 2006

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, but building doesnt seem to be much cheaper than buying a complete rifle...

edit: played with it a little bit... got it to around 700 with a model1sales upper and a global tactical lower... way too many options out there! to build a 16" M4 w/chrome lined barrel and a flip-up rear sight.

spanky · Sep 19, 2006

i think the big money savings comes when you're building something that is more than just basic entry level.

topgunz1 · Sep 19, 2006

yeah... and savings on that is still ALOT of money to me lol. I dont plan on adding much to something like the entry tactical... a free float rail and a light will probably fix me, possibly an eotech or similar sight

SzUrGoT · Sep 19, 2006

topgunz1 said:
Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, but building doesnt seem to be much cheaper than buying a complete rifle...

edit: played with it a little bit... got it to around 700 with a model1sales upper and a global tactical lower... way too many options out there! to build a 16" M4 w/chrome lined barrel and a flip-up rear sight.

From this it sounds like you are thinking of buying a complete lower from one place and a complete upper from another and calling that "building". All you are doing in that case is slapping one on top of the other and pushing two pins, and I can see how you wouldnt save much, someone else is doing the work.

I am talking about buying parts and assembling them into complete upper and lower receivers. This is where the flexibility and savings comes into play. The internet has lots of bargains for the thrifty shopper.

You also gain the gunsmithing experience by this. I bought my first AR complete and have pretty much totally reconfigured it. My second AR (a 9mm) I built the lower up from a stripped receiver and bought a complete RRA upper , but then added a rail and other goodies. I am in the planning stages of my third and plan to build the entire thing.

Like CalvaryJIm mentioned, you can spread the cost out this way too. I spent 100 bucks a month on a part. I would then spend the rest of the month finding the best price for the next part and so on. Gives me something to do and keeps me off the streets.

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