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    unskilled labor expert Abh3vol.firemen's Avatar
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    no carry at southland mall

    i was oc my new 1911 when i was confronted by two deputys and a security guard.i guess i should have kept ocing my p-11 because no one noticed for the past couple of months. i wish places would just put up a sign or just tell you directly.no need to get the law involved.i had been in there 15 minutes,walk past a deputy once,bought a cd,had deputy ask if i was law said no and i had no idea of mall policy on carry.he said he didnt know about oc but walked away talking on his radio.the whole time i was still armed and no i.d. check.15 minutes later he walks up again with another deputy who knows oc is legal inform me on no gun policy then they disarm me walk me to my car then run my i.d.2nd deputy tells me i should get my permit,i said would it have made a diffrence if he saw my gun? no.so why spend money for the permit? well if you can afford the gun ....i said 1st i should'nt have to pay for my rights.2nd i put the gun on layaway to get it and 3d if i need money i can sell it.things i cant do with a permit.now i understand the whole officer safety but why wait til a 2nd verbal encounter and 1 prior visual to disarm me if i was a threat for the amout of time i was in there?they could'nt just walk me to my car armed without id check and not make a scene like i was doing something illegal?there must not have been a safety concern before.

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    LA CHP Instructor # 522 Guate_shooter's Avatar
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    Welcome to the world of OC, .............

    I would ALSO recommend getting a permit, dont look at it as in "I am buying my rights", but you could have had a good time today while shopping and helping out local economy instead of being escorted out like a criminal and then having your time and the Deputies time wasted on running a check on you, it also gave you a bad taste in your mouth "obviously" otherwise you wouldnt have taken the time to post this.

    So in my opinion there are way to many good reassons why to get one compared to why not to get one, then again peoples circumstances change and the way we see the world.

    Make sure you let YALE know about it though, I believe he has a list of places that OC is not permited and if he doesnt have the mall then they can add it.
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    i thought about OCing the other day at Southland Mall... remember that it's private property, but we can respectfully ask the landlord to change his/her stance on personal protection

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    IOP1.

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    Is there a sign or signs that state no firearms on the property?

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    guate how conveint that a person who makes money from chp would say that.would you pay for your any of rights or just that one.i also said in my post that if my gun was seen while concealed carry the result would have been the same.jbp 55 whats IOP1?
    Last edited by Abh3vol.firemen; August 7th, 2011 at 08:42 PM.

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    no or i would not have done it numerous times before

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    LA CHP Instructor # 522 Guate_shooter's Avatar
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    DUDE you are welcome to come to my class FOR FRee yeah I said for FREE, I dont want to sell you a service believe me I stay busy enough.

    how would they have seen your gun if it was concealed is what I would like to know .............?

    IOP1 means in on page 1 FYI
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    if i move and my shirt comes up or the out line of my gun could been seen through my cloths.free class is nice but that still doesnt help with the cost of renewel every 4 or 5 years.i'm no expert but i dont need a class on basic fire arm safety or use.i served 4 years in the navy,trained to use mossberg 500 and berrta m-9.now if a class were more advance i would attend,if i could affort it.i still dont think i should pay anything to protect myself or family.i dont pay the police for responding to a call i make to them so why should i pay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guate_shooter View Post

    how would they have seen your gun if it was concealed is what I would like to know .............?
    Maybe he was giving piggy back rides

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