Gentlemen, It's Time! Join or Re-join! But Be Counted!

[Emperor]

I have come to expect nothing but distorted facts from the media, and this example from the NY Daily News is just another glaring example of how low these phony liberal douches are willing to dwell to push their maniacal agenda to take away our 2nd Amendment. Each little piece of proposed "feel good" and/or "sensible" gun legislation is a planned and calculated part of the overall master plan to rope in citizens' gun Rights.

These America haters will NEVER stop! They will NEVER be satisfied with new "sensible" gun laws! And they will NEVER stop demonizing legal gun ownership in an effort to take them away!

If your agenda has to compare Wayne LaPierre to this Jihadi scumbag murderer, you know he and his organization is a serious bug up your ass!

What ever you guys believe or think you know, the NRA is holding down the frontline against these ideologically driven and controlled zombies.

If you and your family members and friends are not members of the NRA, PLEASE JOIN NOW! If you or anyone you know has let your membership lapse, PLEASE REJOIN!

That is what helps you keep your gun Rights and your guns!

 

[Expert684]

The statement at the bottom blames the NRA cut and dry! Unless Syed was an NRA member(god help us) They can take their publication roll it up real tight and shove it up their a$$!

 

[Emperor]

The statement at the bottom blames the NRA cut and dry! Unless Syed was an NRA member(god help us) They can take their publication roll it up real tight and shove it up their a$$!

You get back at them by showing them a strong membership count!

 

[Whitebread]

Excuss me while I play "white devils advocate". I let mine lapse, because the thing the NRA is best at is asking for money.

When I joined I was freash out of college and was barely getting by and I resented the fact that every time I turned around someone some where wanted more money. I'm older and can aford to give worthy causes more often so I do when I can.

Washington lobbying is a big expensive indurstry and we need every bit of help we can, so I will be renewing my membership today.

 

[Emperor]

Excuss me while I play "white devils advocate". I let mine lapse, because the thing the NRA is best at is asking for money.

When I joined I was freash out of college and was barely getting by and I resented the fact that every time I turned around someone some where wanted more money. I'm older and can aford to give worthy causes more often so I do when I can.

Washington lobbying is a big expensive indurstry and we need every bit of help we can, so I will be renewing my membership today.

It is not NRA's fault! That is the fault of a broken legislative system that allows these scumbag politicians to sell their votes! They should ALL be upholding the Constitution without having to be paid for their support. That unfortunately is what kind of world we have now.

But remember, even if you don't contribute or cant afford to, the next most important thing is to show these America haters we are a unified mindset. Membership numbers!

And don't sign up just yourself, get your family and friends too! My kid is a member and he's still in high school! My wife is a member, and she doesn't even know it!

 

[wcweir3]

"My wife is a member, and she doesn't even know it! "
Love it! going to sign her up also. LOL
Winngate

 

[Emperor]

How much more motivation do you guys need?

This measure was brought up before the blood was even dry!

By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — A polarized Senate voted Thursday against expanding background checks for more gun purchases, rejecting the proposal a day after the latest U.S. mass shooting left 14 people dead in California.

Thursday's mostly party-line 50-48 vote, which followed the Senate's defeat of other firearms curbs, underscored that political gridlock over the issue remains formidable in Washington, even amid a rash of highly publicized U.S. shootings and last month's terror attack in Paris.

The background check measure, co-authored by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and Patrick Toomey, R-Pa., was the same proposal the Senate rejected in early 2013, just months after 20 children and six educators were shot to death at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut.


In that roll call two years ago in a Democratic-controlled Senate, the effort fell five votes short of the 60 needed to overcome opponents' tactics aimed at derailing it. The plan was strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association, which on Thursday emailed its members urging them to contact senators and "tell them to vote against any gun control amendments."

Manchin said his amendment "makes all the sense in the world."

Thursday's first replay of the issue since that 2013 vote showed an erosion of support by seven votes since then and came in what is now a Republican-run Senate. The issue has never received a vote in the GOP-run House.

With next year's presidential and congressional elections moving into sight, Democrats have hoped that support for the curbs would grow, fed by a spate of high-profile mass slayings since 2013.

Also feeding public anxiety has been last month's attacks in Paris, which left 130 people dead and has raised concerns about a growing threat posed by terrorist organizations like the Islamic State group.

The Manchin-Toomey proposal would require background checks for all gun purchases online and at gun shows. Currently, the checks are only required for transactions from licensed gun dealers.

Thursday's vote was symbolic because the proposal was offered as an amendment to a bill obliterating President Barack Obama's health care law, which he will veto. Nonetheless, its political significance was unmistakable.

Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, Mark Kirk of Illinois, John McCain of Arizona and Toomey were the only Republicans to support the proposal. Sen. Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota was the only Democrat who opposed it. Sens. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., and Mark Warner, D-Va., did not vote.

The vote came a day after a shooting in San Bernardino, California, killed 14 people and wounded 21 others.

Earlier Thursday, the Senate in mostly party-line votes rejected rival proposals that could make it harder for people the government suspects of being terrorists from purchasing firearms.

By 54-45, senators voted down a proposal by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., that would let the government bar sales to people it suspects of being terrorists. Though she initially introduced the proposal early this year, it received attention after last month's attacks in Paris.

Minutes earlier, the Senate killed a rival plan by Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, that would let the government delay firearms sales to suspected terrorists for up to 72 hours. Under that proposal, the transaction could be halted permanently during that waiting period if federal officials could persuade a judge to do so.

Senators voted 55-44 for Cornyn's proposal, but it needed 60 votes to pass

 

[Whitebread]

Absolutely agree we have to try to support those who support our causes and avoid supporting those against us.

Sometimes we have to vote with our dollars. That also means buying from or not buying from certain establishments.

 

[fng]

" Minutes earlier, the Senate killed a rival plan by Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, that would let the government delay firearms sales to suspected terrorists for up to 72 hours. Under that proposal, the transaction could be halted permanently during that waiting period if federal officials could persuade a judge to do so."

Senators voted 55-44 for Cornyn's proposal, but it needed 60 votes to pass

Am i reading this right, they would not pass a bill that would delay or prevent someone on the terrorist watch list from legally buying a gun from a licensed dealer..?
Curious as to how passing this bill would be a bad thing?

 

[Expert684]

Absolutely agree we have to try to support those who support our causes and avoid supporting those against us.

Sometimes we have to vote with our dollars. That also means buying from or not buying from certain establishments.

The facts are the lobby groups with the most money, influence the vote on Capital Hill. The NRA is the ONLY group that will stand and fight for your 2nd Amendment rights! So the more money we send them, the better chance we are not screwed over. Just my two cents. I'm not going to hand them my 401K but a couple of bucks extra here and there can't hurt?

 

[Emperor]

" Minutes earlier, the Senate killed a rival plan by Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, that would let the government delay firearms sales to suspected terrorists for up to 72 hours. Under that proposal, the transaction could be halted permanently during that waiting period if federal officials could persuade a judge to do so."

Senators voted 55-44 for Cornyn's proposal, but it needed 60 votes to pass

Am i reading this right, they would not pass a bill that would delay or prevent someone on the terrorist watch list from legally buying a gun from a licensed dealer..?
Curious as to how passing this bill would be a bad thing?

There is more to it than just that. Perhaps passing that bill as a stand alone was not going to happen. Ridiculous amendments being piled on comes to mind. These scum up there refuse to pass stand alone bills on anything, whether it's good for the country or not!

Now, I don't know for sure about this particular bill, but will find out. But a word to the wise, never believe anything at face value being reported in the media.

 

[Whitebread]

The facts are the lobby groups with the most money, influence the vote on Capital Hill. The NRA is the ONLY group that will stand and fight for your 2nd Amendment rights! So the more money we send them, the better chance we are not screwed over. Just my two cents. I'm not going to hand them my 401K but a couple of bucks extra here and there can't hurt?

I think I didnt state that very well. I will stand with those who stand for us. I'm renewing today.

I was entending to say support people who stand with us and not the of the Waffle Houses and Targets of the world.

 

[machinedrummer]

If dead people can vote then the can join the NRA too. Edwards won the election but it was Edwin. No one looked at the first name after the ballots were counted.

 

[Armbruster Armory]

If I recall correctly, the "terror watch list" is the "no-fly list", which is a secret list where names are added and taken off only by the federal government. The problem that I heard voiced was that you could be on that list and never know it, until you go to legally buy a gun and your background check is rejected (and I suspect you would not be told why you were rejected). Would also be possible that those in control of government could arrange for their enemies or those who don't think like them (conservatives, 2nd Amendment fans, etc) to end up on that list (like what happened with IRS harassing Tea Parties under this administration).

 

[cajun_64]

There are many that want to label the NRA, by extension we the people) as terrorist

 

[Rhandhali]

Join or renew to the NRA, join or renew to the SAF. I just did! Use http://smile.amazon.com for your Amazon purchases and send a few pennies here and there to the NRA or the SAF. They all add up.

Register to vote. Actually vote. Know your candidates, and make sure that they know you and what you vote for. A brief, to the point, civil, handwritten letter carries a LOT of weight, far more than an email or a fax.

One thing we must bear in mind is that how the issue of "gun control" framed. The Brady Campaign, Moms Demand Action, The American Medical Association, Mayors Against Illegal Guns and all their ilk are not about "safer gun laws". They don't care about decreasing gun violence. They don't care about illegal guns. The dead mean nothing to them except as a platform to speak on and as props to wave on TV. They are about confiscation. They want to turn us into Japan, at any costs.

We are right, we know we are right and we have the facts to back us up. We should never be deluded that being factually correct is enough. The confiscation crowd all but parades the still warm corpses of children in front of the cameras, they exploit grieving families at every opportunity and turn them into their mouth pieces. Gun owners are under a very heavy, very vicious propaganda campaign right now. We don't have a good way of countering it directly and dramatically, at least not now.

This is not just a war of political influence and money, it's a public relations war, a war of image, of spin control, messaging. It might seem sleazy, it may be unappealing but it's true. The discourse can always be changed - look at ACORN, look at Planned Parenthood. I don't expect a headline dominating expose about MAIG, nice as it would be. There are small things that matter even the words we use matter. Language is very, very powerful when used correctly. The term "Modern Sporting Rifle" has come into usage for a reason. Assault Rifle is the word of the confiscation crowd because it sounds scary to many people.

Consider suppressor versus silencer. A suppressor is a device that muffles a gunshot below the threshold of hearing damage, sometimes dramatically. I can write a very convincing public health argument about why supressors are wonderful things. A silencer as most people know it from film and TV as a miraculous, villainous device capable of reducing the thunderous sound of a handgun in a closed room to a pitiful but deadly "thwip", allowing a murderer to kill with impunity until brought to justice before the credits roll. One is scary, one is healthy. Different words, different meanings, same object.

One of the best ways to deal with this propaganda is to ignore it. We're in a 24 hour media cycle, stories do come and go. San Bernardino will play out. It's frustrating to be deomonized, but don't play to the "gun nut" stereotype. Be a reasonable person. Enjoy your guns, take your friends shooting if they want to go. Help them become good, responsible gun owners if that's what they are interested in. Feel free to talk about your guns, but don't overdo it. Don't brag about how awesome your guns are or how much ammunition you blow through or how cool your new range toy is if you're not in the right company. Don't come off as an obsessive weirdo. If someone doesn't like guns so be it, change the subject and don't try to convert them. If they're scared by guns so be it. Play by thanksgiving dinner rules, and remember that image matters - it's why you dress up for a job interview. The co-worker that everyone knows goes to the range on occasion is better than the drooling gun nut with a facebook page that's nothing but a stream of modern sporting rifles.

I'm much, much happier that 5 people have no opinion about guns than I am with one person actively supporting the confiscation crowd. Actively supporting, by the way, doesn't include sharing clickbait articles or memes on Facebook. Active support is how they spend their money and how they vote. All the bluster in the world is meaningless if you don't throw your dollars down. This goes doubly for us. I wrote a lot of words, but they would be meaningless if I hadn't paid my NRA and SAF dues.

I know this isn't popular but one example of what not to do? Don't walk around with your Modern Sporting Rifle strapped to your back, or open carry your pistol if you're not a uniformed military/LEO. That scares people. Doesn't matter that you don't think they should be scared. It doesn't even matter that you have the right to do so. What matters is that right or wrong, it's not normal for most people. It will scare some people. You will stand out in a bad way. Congratulations, people who might not care about guns suddenly do. It's a soft story for the 10:00 news, "local man waving ASSAULT RIFLE at Starbucks, are your children safe?!?" Hype for the bumper in the middle of the latest episode of the "Walking Dead", more advertising dollars for the local news station (which is all they really care about) and maybe one or two new people in the confiscation camp. The hill that serves lattes is not the hill to fight and die on, not now. Open carry is meaningless without having a gun to open carry.

Fight the propaganda, but don't feed the propaganda, and support the organizations that spend millions of dollars a year to keep confiscation at bay.

 

[obryap]

Been procrastinating on doing this, but its a done deal, just got the email.

"You are now a member of America’s oldest civil rights organization. It is great to have you in our corner! As an NRA member, you are defending your Second Amendment rights and promoting gun safety across America."

 

[Saintsfan6]

Daily News is a f*cking joke. They are trying their best to get some attention. F*ck those ass clowns.

 

[XD-GEM]

GOA is good, too.

 

[WildBillKelso]

I'm doing the NRA life membership this year. I figure they could use the money for the elections of the president that will most likely appoint some Sup. Ct. justices.